Tren E and Tren A... same sides???

[roid_rage]

I was wondering if the sides are stronger if I take Tren E than If I take Tren A... since I read here that the sides (such as sleeplessness) can be reduce if you take tren A ED not EOD, If injecting ED lower the sides, then I would assume that Tren E, since the ester is long acting, will create worst sides... am I wrong?

[rockstarr]

from everything i read is if you take Tren A since it is short esters if sides are bad you can lower dosage or come off and if on Tren E since longer esters if you get sides your stuck with them till the end of the week i would check with the Vets though to make sure.

[Matt]

You will tend to get tren cough with tren a, and not from tren e...

[RANA]

You would need to go with Tren A ED injections, look here http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=397573
And what rockstar said except it could be almost 2 weeks for some of the sides to go away with Tren E

[redz]

You will tend to get tren cough with tren a, and not from tren e...

This is generally true, I almost got it though last week with a tren e shot. I finished the shot quickly when I noticed something was up and laid down for a bit and it past without coughing but I swear I was close to start coughing relentlessly. Fortunately it didn't happen.

[roid_rage]

thax guy....

is the sleeplessness worst with tren E than with tren a???

[redz]

I sleep very well on Tren E couldnt tell you in comparison with Tren A because I never tried it. I did however go through 6 t-shirts last night.

[Hazard]

I sweat like a pig on both..... summer or winter.... doesn't matter LOL. I like tren E better..... but thats probably because I ran more.

Lack of sleep for me is due to the relentless sweating. I went to sleep.... woke up 90 minutes later and the bed was soaked through the sheets and starting to wet the mattress. Got up and slept on the couch..... 2 hours later woke up and the couch was soaked..... went back to the bedroom LMAO

~Haz~

[hankdiesel]

The sides were about the same for me.

[Topgun1]

I am about to start Tren E in about 2 weeks. This will be my first run with Tren and I am excited. I plan on running 300mg/week, along with Test E at 500mg/week.

What doses have you guys ran in the past?

[The Deuce]

I ran that SAME cycle TOPGUN... And LOVED every second of it... aside from the fact I literally couldn't stop sweating at night.. or In the GYM.. I had to have literally consumed 3 gallons of water per day just to keep up with the relentless SWEAT Pouring out of my PORES...

That is the ONLY side I have ever noticed from TREN, I hear all these stories of increased anxiety on it.. NOPE NOT ME.. Also all these stories of insomnia.. nope not for me either.. slept like a BABY !! Everyone said that Tren makes them BREAK out more... Not me either!!

In fact, I have never had a problem with ACNE and cycling to OHHHHHH About a WEEK AGO !!! Now I got some B-ACNE going on that won't quit... My wife is a freak though and insists on POPING Them.. so I let her have at it... why not.. I just hope I don't start getting all scared up from it.... that would suck....

But yah as far as TREN goes... I don't know if I will ever run ACE again... I prefer the ENANTHATE Version of it.. as weird as that sounds... and actually this is going to sound weird.. I'll use ACE again but only when I use the TRI-TREN Blend... I have never been a fan of BLENDS until I gave this a try... and I absolutely LOVED IT !!!

In fact I might run a BLEND CYCLE Next just for the HECK of it.. Never ever ever been a fan of blends like I SAID... but I had a friend that used that blend and OMNA's and I can't even BEGIN to tell you the results this MAN got... ridiculous... and the PRICK had no clue about dieting.. just EATS and Eats and EATS !!

That's what I love so much about AAS... So many different combination's... so many different compounds... Ahhh the DARKSIDE... Gotta LOVE it !!

[Topgun1]

I ran that SAME cycle TOPGUN... And LOVED every second of it... aside from the fact I literally couldn't stop sweating at night.. or In the GYM.. I had to have literally consumed 3 gallons of water per day just to keep up with the relentless SWEAT Pouring out of my PORES...

That is the ONLY side I have ever noticed from TREN, I hear all these stories of increased anxiety on it.. NOPE NOT ME.. Also all these stories of insomnia.. nope not for me either.. slept like a BABY !! Everyone said that Tren makes them BREAK out more... Not me either!!

In fact, I have never had a problem with ACNE and cycling to OHHHHHH About a WEEK AGO !!! Now I got some B-ACNE going on that won't quit... My wife is a freak though and insists on POPING Them.. so I let her have at it... why not.. I just hope I don't start getting all scared up from it.... that would suck....

But yah as far as TREN goes... I don't know if I will ever run ACE again... I prefer the ENANTHATE Version of it.. as weird as that sounds... and actually this is going to sound weird.. I'll use ACE again but only when I use the TRI-TREN Blend... I have never been a fan of BLENDS until I gave this a try... and I absolutely LOVED IT !!!

In fact I might run a BLEND CYCLE Next just for the HECK of it.. Never ever ever been a fan of blends like I SAID... but I had a friend that used that blend and OMNA's and I can't even BEGIN to tell you the results this MAN got... ridiculous... and the PRICK had no clue about dieting.. just EATS and Eats and EATS !!

That's what I love so much about AAS... So many different combination's... so many different compounds... Ahhh the DARKSIDE... Gotta LOVE it !!

Awesome!

Yea I have had no sides with my prior cycles. And I know this is Tren, the nector of the gods, I have done my homework, but you hear so many different stories about sides from different people. It is reassuring to hear that from you Deuce.

How long did you run the Tren and when did you feel it "kick in"?

[Ashop]

from everything i read is if you take Tren A since it is short esters if sides are bad you can lower dosage or come off and if on Tren E since longer esters if you get sides your stuck with them till the end of the week i would check with the Vets though to make sure.

I think the sides are similar but your right,,,with the shorter acting ester ACETATE,,if you have problems they are easier to control.

[The Deuce]

Awesome!

Yea I have had no sides with my prior cycles. And I know this is Tren, the nector of the gods, I have done my homework, but you hear so many different stories about sides from different people. It is reassuring to hear that from you Deuce.

How long did you run the Tren and when did you feel it "kick in"?

12 week run, but I did kickstart it with ACE.. so I FELT It withing the first week... Ran ACE... Dosed at 75mgs per ML at 1/2ml ED for 21days, and when I came off the ACE the E was rockin' in my system.. didn't feel a fluctuation at all between the switch.. so technically I ran 262.5mgs of Tren A per week for the first 3 weeks and with the ESTER consideration when the Enan ester took over it was just SLIGHTLY MORE Powerful... if you base it upon the fact you get 78mgs per 100mgs = 234mgs of Tren Enan per week if running 300 and with regards to ACE.. I think it's 85mgs per 100mgs.. so ROUGHLY about 210-220mgs of Tren A per week... IN REGARDS TO ESTER WEIGHT.. I do not know if THOSE NUMBERS ARE 100% Accurate but they are definitely in the ballpark...

Anyways.. if you do not kickstart with the ACE ester... you are looking at a kick in at or around the 3 week mark... You will notice SOME before then.. BUT FULL BLOWN ASS KICKING Comes in at the 3 week mark... so if you run it for 12 weeks you are looking at some SICK NASTY GAINS if your diet is spot on... If I were YOU though... RUN that Test for 14 weeks, and the Tren for 12.... JMHO.

TOPGUN you gon LOVE IT !!!


P.S.- YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STOCKPILED CABERGOLINE !!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY !!! If nothing else make sure you have plenty of that....

And DO NOT FORGET YOUR PCT !!!!!!!!!!!!

[MR10X]

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren A and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start with 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

[Topgun1]

12 week run, but I did kickstart it with ACE.. so I FELT It withing the first week... Ran ACE... Dosed at 75mgs per ML at 1/2ml ED for 21days, and when I came off the ACE the E was rockin' in my system.. didn't feel a fluctuation at all between the switch.. so technically I ran 262.5mgs of Tren A per week for the first 3 weeks and with the ESTER consideration when the Enan ester took over it was just SLIGHTLY MORE Powerful... if you base it upon the fact you get 78mgs per 100mgs = 234mgs of Tren Enan per week if running 300 and with regards to ACE.. I think it's 85mgs per 100mgs.. so ROUGHLY about 210-220mgs of Tren A per week... IN REGARDS TO ESTER WEIGHT.. I do not know if THOSE NUMBERS ARE 100% Accurate but they are definitely in the ballpark...

Anyways.. if you do not kickstart with the ACE ester... you are looking at a kick in at or around the 3 week mark... You will notice SOME before then.. BUT FULL BLOWN ASS KICKING Comes in at the 3 week mark... so if you run it for 12 weeks you are looking at some SICK NASTY GAINS if your diet is spot on... If I were YOU though... RUN that Test for 14 weeks, and the Tren for 12.... JMHO.

TOPGUN you gon LOVE IT !!!


P.S.- YOU BETTER MAKE SURE YOU HAVE STOCKPILED CABERGOLINE !!! IT'S AN ABSOLUTE NECESSITY !!! If nothing else make sure you have plenty of that....

And DO NOT FORGET YOUR PCT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Great advice man!

I was planning on running Test E 500mg/week 12 weeks, Tren E 300mg/Week 10weeks. You think I should run the Tren E for 12 weeks?

As far as the Caber. I have come to realize that I am not estrogen sensitive. I have ran Test up to 750mg/week with no sides. As far as the Tren is, that is my only concern is the progesterone/prolactin sides. Did you have any or did you just run a maintance does of Caber throughout the cycle.

What PCT did you follow?

Thanks

[RANA]

Stick with Tren E for 10 weeks, I hope the sides dont bother you too much. Sides where minimal for me. Caber is a must, the reason for that is about week 3-4 you might notice your erections are not as hard even though you are hornier the a dozen teen age boys in a strip bar. I ran caber through about week 3 until PCT was dont. Tabs are much better then liquid but tabs are expensive.

[The Deuce]

Yes I ran Caber regardless !! I wont wait around for Prolactin sides to come along... might as well nip it in the bud before it occurs... PLUS PLUS PLUS PLUS... The Added SEXUAL BENNY'S MAKE IT ALL WORTH WHILE !!!

Oh and Run that TREN just for 10 weeks.. thats FINE !!! Hell frontload it and run it for 8 !!

And just your typical normal PCT will do.. I ran my CABER through MY PCT just cuz...

[Lean1038]

Im thinking of doing the same cycle except just use masteron and tren A and no test. The masteron should be enough androgen to keep your libido up and just reap the benifits of the tren. If you use test you might need an AI to keep the estrogen down and maby some nolvadex to stop gyno depending on how much test you use. Since the tren is the most powerful compound i want to keep it as much tren as i can stand. I will start with 50mg ED and see how i tolerate that and then increase if i can. What im saying is i dont want to dilute the tren with weaker compounds.

Bump for thoughts on this.

I understand Tren amplifys the estrogenic sides from agents that aromatize and planned on only running 200mg of Test with it, but this idea sparks my interest.

Vets please chim in.

[waleedy2k]

I was wondering if the sides are stronger if I take Tren E than If I take Tren A... since I read here that the sides (such as sleeplessness) can be reduce if you take tren A ED not EOD, If injecting ED lower the sides, then I would assume that Tren E, since the ester is long acting, will create worst sides... am I wrong?

tren a to go

[RusselGaint]

Does Tren give any kidney problems?

[roid_rage]

Stick with Tren E for 10 weeks, I hope the sides dont bother you too much. Sides where minimal for me. Caber is a must, the reason for that is about week 3-4 you might notice your erections are not as hard even though you are hornier the a dozen teen age boys in a strip bar. I ran caber through about week 3 until PCT was dont. Tabs are much better then liquid but tabs are expensive.

even if you use test???

by the way, somehow, the my thread has been al-qaeda hijacked LOL....

[RANA]

even if you use test???

by the way, somehow, the my thread has been al-qaeda hijacked LOL....

Yes even with test. Like I said I was still horney but my hardons were not as has before this cycle and cabor helped with that

[MR10X]

Yes even with test. Like I said I was still horney but my hardons were not as has before this cycle and cabor helped with that

I have some Prami that will help with the prolactin issues and it also has some other good side effects also like it increases your HGH production,and your sex drive.

[RANA]

I have some Prami that will help with the prolactin issues and it also has some other good side effects also like it increases your HGH production,and your sex drive.

I have heard good things about prami and I am contemplating using it for my next tren cycle

[roid_rage]

Yes even with test. Like I said I was still horney but my hardons were not as has before this cycle and cabor helped with that

Ok, I guess it was the high levels of prolactin in your body what was "hurting" your "buddy"... then I should assume that with caber I should have no problems right?

[redz]

Caber will keep prolacting problems away. I ran it on my first 2 tren cycles but this one I just have it on hand in case, I have not noticed reduced erection strength or any other sexual side effect.

[Topgun1]

I will be starting Tren E in week 3 of my cycle. Should I begin taking Caber before I start Tren or wait until I am on Tren?

[Lean1038]

I will be starting Tren E in week 3 of my cycle. Should I begin taking Caber before I start Tren or wait until I am on Tren?

I would start caber now, wouldn't hurt to preload.

[92whitelx]

i was just wondering what your stamina was like on this. I play college sports and was wondering if it would hinder my breathing any

[redz]

I have never once noticed any decrease in cardio on tren. In fact the opposite while playing hockey I actually had better endurance. Everyone is different though.

[92whitelx]

ok i was just reading about it in the profile section and read that it could. But thanks