how different are these to eachother? what are the goods and bads of both, and which would u prefer to take and why? The only difference im aware of is price, clen is way more expensive..
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how different are these to eachother? what are the goods and bads of both, and which would u prefer to take and why? The only difference im aware of is price, clen is way more expensive..
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
id rather take clen.......i get sides off both....with eph i feel wired to fuk and cant sleep.....clen i get the shakes and bad cramps.....but enougth water and supps can stop the cramps and i can handel the shakes.....
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what doses you taking?
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ya the shakes are easy to handle.the cramps suck though but i take taurine for that
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L-taurine is it? is that the same as taurine yeah??
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and how much taurine u taking a day?
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
not taking as i havent used anything in years......the most i could take of clen was 120mcg and to be honest i think that was to high........eph i think thay were 5 mg tabs..tiny litle tabs....2 of them and i was a way with the mixer.......but ive go a low tolerance to stimulants.......i think i was taking 3 grams of taurin per day.....and recall i needed more.....after doing legs oneday i had to roll down the steps of the gym because the cramps were so bad LOL......
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Originally Posted by energizer bunny
Ha, I know what you mean. After a leg day, when I would run up my stairs, both my calves would cramp up and I'd fall flat on my face. It sucks when your foot starts to cramp when you're driving too.
Take 3g - 5g of Taurine per day. Also take in about 1.5 gallons of water, and if you want, some potassium pills.
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
man i couldnt walk because everytime i bent my legs they would cramp.....i had to keep them straight......and these steps werent just a couple a steps....a full flight of steps....people walking up and theres me rolling down with my legs straight as pos......i must of looked like an idiot lol.......
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oh shite! what were your fat loss gains like with clen? any good?
Attitude is a little thing that makes a big difference
to be honest......i was looking for a quick fix......didnt have a diet and i was out drinking and partying all the time...so basically it was a waste of my time and money.....im very sure though if id had my diet in check and not partying every week i would of had decent results.......Diet is key......the clen will just help...
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I took Clen while on cycle, so I was able to dip my calories to about 2,000 per day without losing any muscle. I lost about 2lbs a week, and when I took Clen, I would lose 5lbs a week. So on a 2 week on/2 week off Clen cycle, I lost 10lbs.
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did you do 2 weeks on / 2 weeks of all the way through-out your 12 week cycle??
Im afraid of losing muscle
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I did a 16 week cycle, but I only did three cycles of 2 weeks on/2 weeks off with the Clen. That is a total of 30lbs lost, it did its job. Clen has anti-catabolic effects for the duration of the two weeks. It loses the effect after day 14. I'm not sure how powerful the muscle sparing effects are though, since I have never taken Clen off cycle.
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surely near to the 16 weeks you stopped losing fat as easily as you did towards the beggining?
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Nope, I kept losing the same amount of fat. I would just re-adjust my diet and the further I got into my cycle, the more anabolic the compounds I was taking would get, so I could dip my calories even lower. I got freakin' shredded by the end of my cycle. I never lost less than 2lbs a week off Clen, and never less than 5lbs a week on Clen. You just gotta' know your body and how it works, and what you can do with it.
The only problems I encountered was insomnia from eating so little and working so hard. Took me forever to get to sleep so I would lay in bed right after my last meal, and it took me hours to finally pass out. I got to the point where I was eating 1600 calories a day, and I still got shredded and jacked as hell. My strength was also through the roof despite how little I was eating. It's all about diet man.
Last edited by workoutfreak078; 09-10-2009 at 03:24 PM.
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Thats freakin amazin bro
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clen
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
Ephedrine works better for me.
No sides at all and great results.
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how many mg of ephedrine u taking a day?
better results than clen??
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keep workout the same? and up protein intake a bit more? a lower carbs and cals?
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first week 50mg at breakfast, second week 50mg at breakfats and 50mg at lunch time. i also tried to go up to 150mg but saw no difference compared with 100mg.
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
no, nothing changed.
just i started to get rid of fat at first and water following it...
i was 16% down to 12% which is fine to me to start a cycle.
Sapiens Fingit Fortunam Sibi
clen gave me resistance in working out and a bit of strength but regarding the ability to lose fat there was no improvement from ephedrine.
Last edited by BJJ; 09-12-2009 at 01:36 PM.
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If I saw someone rolling down the steps I would ****ing piss myself!!!!!!! ****ing awesome!!!!!!
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I prefer CLENBUTEROL over EPH anyday myself. I cant even think straight with EPH,, too wired,,and I crash hard.
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what do you mean you crash hard?
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I have never tried Clen but I love Ephed. 50 mgs. in the morning and another 50 before the workout, or 25 mgs 3 times per day. I also take mine with 200-250 mgs of caffeine and aspirin. If on a low carb diet I can shed 2-3lbs. per week easy.
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Hey mate,
just to clarifiy, you ran clen whilst on cycle and it didnt effect your cycle to much? im starting tommoz and woiuld love some piece of mind.
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L-taurine is the taurine humans have, every L compound is what people mean when they say for example carnitine, they mean L-carnitine, they just dont know it
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I use a stack of ephedrine, caffeine, and asprin. It's potent stuff I take it in the am during my cardio. Sweat like a pig. Two weeks on two weeks off. Works really good and no cramps. I once got a cramp in my ab while I was bent over stretching my hams. I couldn't straighten up. I was rolling on the floor clenching my teeth. I had a knot the size of a baseball in my abs. Hard like a rock. A friend finally sat on me so I could straighten up. LOL After that experience I was too scared to take clen. LOL But the ECA stack works really good.
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Cool.
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