Fireguy -- Whats my BF?

[fig]

Fireguy, you seem to be the expert around here. By all means, anyone else is free to chime in. I was quoted at 12% by another member but comparing myself to others here that claim to be 10%, 11% or 12%...either they are WAY off or I'm WAY off with 12%. I think it's a little of both.



Comparing myself to others here, AFTER a vet corrects them, I'm thinking 10%...possibly 11%. What do you think? Thanks.

[fig]

BTW, I'm 5'11", 180lb., 27 y/o

[FireGuy]

I think your assessment of 10-11% is pretty accurate. Conditioning looks really good.

[fig]

I think your assessment of 10-11% is pretty accurate. Conditioning looks really good.

Thanks for the fast reply Fireguy!!!!

[FireGuy]

Anytime, drop another 5-7 lbs of fat from where you are now and you will be well into single digit % and looking hard as nails.

[Epic1]

This should be a thread everyone uses. Ask Fireguy what % is. haha

[Razor172]

look good bro i hope i can get to where you are now

[fig]

Anytime, drop another 5-7 lbs of fat from where you are now and you will be well into single digit % and looking hard as nails.

I plan to bulk until the end of the year, maintain until about end of March, serious cut from April 1 - May 31, maintain for summer. I have never tried to cut before, I just eat healthy. I think it's a good idea to give SERIOUS effort towards a cut diet while I still have a great metabolism. I will hit you up end of May to show you my results if I stay on schedule.

[fig]

look good bro i hope i can get to where you are now

Thanks bro! 4 weeks into a bulk cycle so I will gain some fat but as I said to Fireguy, I'm gonna do a serious cut afterwards to get into single digits with more mass. Can't wait!


BTW that is 100% natty. This is my first cycle and the Test has not kicked in yet. You can get there, just be persistent and committed.

[zaggahamma]

i thought 9-10% great work either way

[fig]

i thought 9-10% great work either way

Thank you

[Bradly1234]

not sure about the body fat but i do know ur avatar is absolutly hilarious

[fig]

not sure about the body fat but i do know ur avatar is absolutly hilarious

Haha, yea I got a pretty good laugh the first time I saw it

[Deltasaurus]

whats ur diet like?

[fig]

whats ur diet like?

5:00AM
Steak (4oz)
Eggs (2 Whole)
Milk (12 oz.)
---In a Blender:---
Oats (1 Cup)
Isopure (1 scoop)
Banana (1)
V8 Fusion Light (1 Cup)
Water (1 Cup)

Workout

8:00AM (PWO)
Cran-Grape Juice (12 oz.) <--For Glucose
ON Whey (3 scoops)
Milk (16 oz.)

11:00AM (this is when it starts getting tough)
Tuna (2 cans)
Mayo (2tbsp. Lowfat)
Onion Bagel (1)
Sunflower Seeds (1/4 Cup)

2:00PM
Whatever dinner was night before
At least 500 Cal and some kind of meat, never fish cause I'm at work

6:00PM
Dinner...
M: Chicken of sorts, try to mix this one up a bit
T: Steak (1" Strip)/Green Beans
W: Pork Chops (2)/Edamames
R: Steak (1" Strip)/Green Beans
F: Salmon/Brown Rice/Broccoli (Carbs allowed cause it's Friday and I'm staying up)
S: Cheat - Has been a large Pizza EVERY time...this Italian place is amazing!
U: Chicken Caesar

8:00PM
Yogurt (6 oz.)
Isopure Zero Carb (1 Scoop) (Strawberry)*
ON Casein (1.5 Scoops) (Creamy Vanilla)*
Milk (2 cups)

This is just under 4,000 cal
Macros are 50%P, 40%C, 10%F

*Put flavors there because the shake tastes better than anything I've ever had before. Def worth a try if anyone is considering a new late night shake.

**Carbs are almost 0 at 2:00 and 6:00.

***Could use some more fruit and EFA's

****2 shakes only if you're not counting breakfast. Breakfast is all real food except for that one whey scoop

Obviously I'm bulking and the diet is no where near perfect...but it's working great for me. I've never had issues with fat so by perfecting the diet, I don't think it would do all THAT much for me. Honestly, I think the few poor parts of the diet are good because they keep me going. For example, there is too much sugar in that late night shake (yogurt has jam in it) and carbs (casein). To make that perfect, I'd be tempted to not even eat it. Started with this about 2 months ago and I'm +8lbs.

[ancientgr]

Nice avatar. ahha.

[Deltasaurus]

u must have some gnarly digestion issues with all that protein my god. u must fart all day long.

obviously this is working for you, but i may say try lowering the protein quite a bit and upping the clean carbs. will save your wallet and you may notice what i have that strength is through the roof!!

good Job BTW u look Gr8

[fig]

u must have some gnarly digestion issues with all that protein my god. u must fart all day long.

obviously this is working for you, but i may say try lowering the protein quite a bit and upping the clean carbs. will save your wallet and you may notice what i have that strength is through the roof!!

good Job BTW u look Gr8

I must say, I've been farting like a monster the last few weeks. I was attributing it to Avodart (I'm sure some of it is) but didn't realize excess protein can do that. I have limited knowledge with diet and love experimenting so I will try adding carbs...god knows I've been craving them lately. Strength has been somewhat stagnant so we'll see if his helps.

Thanks for the compliment. It is quite meaningful when it comes from you guys as opposed to the morbidly obese people I work with

[fig]

Nice avatar. ahha.

[Twist]

I must say, I've been farting like a monster the last few weeks. I was attributing it to Avodart (I'm sure some of it is) but didn't realize excess protein can do that. I have limited knowledge with diet and love experimenting so I will try adding carbs...god knows I've been craving them lately. Strength has been somewhat stagnant so we'll see if his helps.

Thanks for the compliment. It is quite meaningful when it comes from you guys as opposed to the morbidly obese people I work with

If the gas is bad just try to add some fiber like the chewable metamucil things. should fix it right up.

[RANA]

I would agree 10-11% bf. Is that what you normally maintain throughout the year?

[fig]

I would agree 10-11% bf. Is that what you normally maintain throughout the year?

Yes.

[Deltasaurus]

I must say, I've been farting like a monster the last few weeks. I was attributing it to Avodart (I'm sure some of it is) but didn't realize excess protein can do that. I have limited knowledge with diet and love experimenting so I will try adding carbs...god knows I've been craving them lately. Strength has been somewhat stagnant so we'll see if his helps.

Thanks for the compliment. It is quite meaningful when it comes from you guys as opposed to the morbidly obese people I work with

ya i think people really overconsume protein drop it and add carbs.

whats ur protein total right now? how many grams
id say get ur carbs up to about 65% 25% pro and 10% fat

[zaggahamma]

If the gas is bad just try to add some fiber like the chewable metamucil things. should fix it right up.

really?

[fig]

really?

I think he forgot sarcasm tags

[fig]

ya i think people really overconsume protein drop it and add carbs.

whats ur protein total right now? how many grams
id say get ur carbs up to about 65% 25% pro and 10% fat

P- 451g
C- 304g
F- 79g

I think I will try to hit 40%P 50%C 10%F first and see how that works. From there, slowly increase carbs until I feel it's too much.

[Deltasaurus]

ya do what u want, but try mine for say 1 month and log it down. u will save alot of money, i mean u really dont need that amount of protein your taking in. id drop it about 200grams at least

[BJJ]

Fireguy, you seem to be the expert around here. By all means, anyone else is free to chime in. I was quoted at 12% by another member but comparing myself to others here that claim to be 10%, 11% or 12%...either they are WAY off or I'm WAY off with 12%. I think it's a little of both.



Comparing myself to others here, AFTER a vet corrects them, I'm thinking 10%...possibly 11%. What do you think? Thanks.

Only a BMI would answer correctly.
But anyway, either 10, 11 or 12 % who cares man... YOU look Good!

[FireGuy]

Only a BMI would answer correctly.
But anyway, either 10, 11 or 12 % who cares man... YOU look Good!

BMI is the absolute worst indicator of measuring bodyfat ever invented.

[BJJ]

BMI is the absolute worst indicator of measuring bodyfat ever invented.

It depends what machine you are using.
I was speaking in general about BMI, even though I believe many people do not even know what is a Body Composition Assessment (BCA).
It is used by the military fields and together with the hydrostatics balance is, presently, the best available methodology.

[fig]

ya do what u want, but try mine for say 1 month and log it down. u will save alot of money, i mean u really dont need that amount of protein your taking in. id drop it about 200grams at least

I will def log and up the carbs. I've been thinking about this a bit the last few days and actually am looking forward to getting eating more carbs. I'm gonna wait for this weekend and revise my diet. Do you personally try to stay away from carbs at night?

[fig]

Only a BMI would answer correctly.
But anyway, either 10, 11 or 12 % who cares man... YOU look Good!

Thanks BJJ

[Narkissos]

id say get ur carbs up to about 65% 25% pro and 10% fat

And *I'd* suggest that the OP ignore this advice completely.

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And *I'd* suggest that the OP ignore this advice completely.

Nark, what do you suggest for percentages? I will increase carbs just to see what happens but I'm trying to get some different opinions.

[FireGuy]

It depends what machine you are using.
I was speaking in general about BMI, even though I believe many people do not even know what is a Body Composition Assessment (BCA).
It is used by the military fields and together with the hydrostatics balance is, presently, the best available methodology.

In your initial statment you said BMI which is Body Mass Index which is based purely on circumference of certain body parts and ht/wt. BMI puts me over 20% bodyfat BTW.

[FireGuy]

Nark, what do you suggest for percentages? I will increase carbs just to see what happens but I'm trying to get some different opinions.

Looks like you are currently at about 48/32/20. You could probably drop the protein a bit and add a bit of carbs but this current ratio seems to be serving you well. If it were me and I wanted to get leaner I would keep the diet as is for now and just increase my cardio.

[fig]

Looks like you are currently at about 48/32/20. You could probably drop the protein a bit and add a bit of carbs but this current ratio seems to be serving you well. If it were me and I wanted to get leaner I would keep the diet as is for now and just increase my cardio.

Thanks again Fireguy. I think I will increase the carbs for a few months to put on size and make some strength gains. After my cycle, I may revert back to this diet...and then over the summer, increase cardio as you suggest.

[BJJ]

In your initial statment you said BMI which is Body Mass Index which is based purely on circumference of certain body parts and ht/wt. BMI puts me over 20% bodyfat BTW.

I see what you mean but there are several types of BMI too, professional ones.
They are not hand made and other parameters are taken into account. It is a sort of NMR, while some others, less accurate, use the impedance.
In any case, if it is you in the pic... we both know you are not 20% bf.

[Narkissos]

Nark, what do you suggest for percentages? I will increase carbs just to see what happens but I'm trying to get some different opinions.

40:40:20.. to start.

From there, one can tweak it further to the individual.

I see guys jumping on the 60+% carb intake bandwagon since George Farah stated that his athletes use 65% carbs during their contest preps.

NB: I'm not disputing George's figures.

I just find it laughable how members jump from one extreme to another here.

Run a search on the trends here, and you'll realize that the same guys suggesting one thing were the ones backing a completely different thing just months prior.

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40:40:20.. to start.

From there, one can tweak it further to the individual.

I see guys jumping on the 60+% carb intake bandwagon since George Farah stated that his athletes use 65% carbs during their contest preps.

NB: I'm not disputing George's figures.

I just find it laughable how members jump from one extreme to another here.

Run a search on the trends here, and you'll realize that the same guys suggesting one thing were the ones backing a completely different thing just months prior.

Much appreciated