How effective is Tbol, as far as lean mass gains are concerned, compared to var? I've used var with good results and am considering tbol. I'm pretty familiar with this compound, I am just curious as to some of your experiences.
How effective is Tbol, as far as lean mass gains are concerned, compared to var? I've used var with good results and am considering tbol. I'm pretty familiar with this compound, I am just curious as to some of your experiences.
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Originally Posted by fanatic
Tbol works best at 50mg-60mg ED...............
It's possible to gain 5-10lbs of lean mass if your training is spot on. No bloat just pure lean gains, with decent strength increases.
tbol seems to have a very good gains/sides ratio. I think it can be used in a bulk cycle unlike var which will only find its place in a lean mass cycle.
cant wait to try it on my next cycle
Has anyone experienced the same muscle-hardness/definition with tbol that var yields?
Originally Posted by fanatic
Do a search. So many threads about tbol.
There are definately alot of them. I've been around long enough to know to run a search before starting a thread... I didnt find the exact answers I was looking for so I started one.Originally Posted by Hellmask
Originally Posted by fanatic
So whats your question, I will try to answer it with the best of my ability.
Thanks bro. Anyway, is turanabol comparable to var in muscle hardness and definition qualities? I love var, its just so damn expensive and I'm trying to find an alternative.Originally Posted by Hellmask
Originally Posted by fanatic
Tbol adds all lean gains, but doesn't cut fat. More muscle with tbol than with var. Var is great for vascularity+fatloss. I'm using both now, and all I notice the var doing is adding a few more veins. Tbol is better and cheaper.
Sweet. I'm just mulling around some ideas for my next cycle. I'll be running Eq for sure and If I keep my bf% down that will make up for the vascularity differences between var and tbol. By the way, what dosages are you running?Originally Posted by Hellmask
40mgs tbol/50mgs var <-----Haven't seen much but a few veins and a SLIGHT increase in strength.
Cool. Thanks for the info man. I hope you chime in here in a week or two when I post my cycle for critiquing. I like to hear about personal experiences with these compounds before using them.Originally Posted by Hellmask
Originally Posted by fanatic
will do.
whats your entire cycle look like?
It'll be Eq, Tbol and I havent decided on the test yet. I love prop but I already have some test e and dont want to shell out more $. I'll kickstart with some left-over prop. Its still about 6-7 weeks away so I'm just kind of ironing out the details. Hell, I just decided this morning that I was going to run tbol. lolOriginally Posted by Hellmask
Good stuff, next to prop Tbol has become my favorite AAS. I use 60-80mg ED for 30-40 days. Good luck.Originally Posted by fanatic
Thanks bro, check your PMs.Originally Posted by Logan13
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Da*n! My comp keeps posting me twice.
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I'm on 70mg/ED. Love it. No sides except for a nap every now and then. Vascularity is great, pumps are great (even hurt sometimes). I'm on a restricted diet so I've leaned out real nice.Originally Posted by fanatic
Hey bro, I love it too at 70-80mg/ED but i noticed it didnt KILL my libido but more hurt my erection fullness? I was just wonering if anyone else with tbol has had this prob ..Originally Posted by AIZ
Should i say WAY cheaper?.........Var's too expensive for what it gives back....JMOOriginally Posted by Hellmask
about a 1/4 of the price. Its only a few cents each day if you cap your own aswell
not only cheaper but way more effective IMO
Yaeh buddyyyyy! (sounds like Big RonOriginally Posted by jollygreenGIANT
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tbol is cheaper and may give you more lean muscle, but which is the safer compound? back pumps liver toxcity?
what if you ran tbol at 80-100mg would that be a problem
i'd rather not go thatway, jmo.....unlessyou have special discount on liver for Xmas....
i thought it was not that bad on your liver
ain't such a good idea bro, eventhough it ain't very hepatoxic, that's still 17 alpha, never lose sight of that....
Originally Posted by Testostack
Aint nothin but a peanut....light weight baby!![]()
Originally Posted by Hellmask
Everybody wants to be a bodybuilder, but ain't nobody want to lift heavyass weight......i luv that one, so TRUE
SO AS LONG AS YOU TAKE IN SOME MILK THISTLE YOUR LIVER SHOULD BE SAFE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO FOR PCT FOR A TBOL ONLY CYCLE? THANKS sorry for the caps damn kids lol
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Can you mix? Say 20mg Anavar and 20mg Tbol for 6 weeks? Get a bit of both instead of just straight tbol?
how long b4 u can feel and see the tbol working?
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