test with eq, or test w/o eq....difference?

[firsttimer22]

ok, i know its pretty much a world divided on the whole EQ subject....50/50 is what im talking about (people says its worth it, people says its pointless)...my question is, with all biased knowlege aside, what is the typical amount of lean mass one can expect to gain while on test and eq vs just test alone? if cylced for 12 weeks?

Does eq add alot of lean mass, or will you not really see a diff wheras you just use test alone?

how much lean mass can you expect on a 12wk cycle of test alone?

[*El Diablo*]

No one here will be able to tell you, it all depends on ur diet, training, gene;s and soforth, but since this is your first cycle, run only one compound to see how ur body will respond. Test E/C for 12 weeks.
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[ranging1]

this is a stupid question, and clearly u dont know much about steroids and are a noob

no one can anser this for you, and NO ONE can give you a comparesent between the 2

the best way i can describe it is

lets say their are 3 cycles

1: 500mg test
2: 500mg test with 500mg equipose
3: 1000mg testerone

now which cycle will you gain best on?

if we had a hypothetical theory
holding ALL other factors constant (diet, training, individual) are identical

you would gain the least on 1. 500mg testerone becuase thats the least amount of gear

u would gain second best on 2. 500mgtest/500mg equipose becuase ur now using same same amount of gear on the first cycle PLUS another steroid,

and u would most likely gain the most on 3. 1000mg of test becuase testerone is a stronger anabolic the equipose, therefore making it a more powerful cycle then the second one

its basic math, the more gear u use the more u COULD gain, the STRONGER the gear the more you could gain

However dont take this type of thinking into account becuase their is a point where it does diminish and their are points where side effects arent worth it

[MR10X]

If you havnt done anything yet,do just test.1000mg of test would be a bit much for your first cycle,some people have bad sides with that much test. 500 to 750 woild be a good start to see how you react to test.Adding EQ to your cycle will give you effects you wont get with just test,and it wont add any bad side effects.do a cycle to see how much test you can handle,then next time add 600mg of EQ and see how that works. All this is assuming the stuff you have is good,and not weak.

[marcus300]

God there is some bad advice in this thread from unexperienced guys!

If you have never ran a cycle you need to stick with one compound for your first cycle go with test 400mgs-500mgs per wk for 12 wks.

Its pointless asking people about EQ, its been debated alot and the only way to see if you respond to it or not is to use it and find out, but even if your one of the lucky ones who do respond its still a very weak compound and there are alot more AAS out there what will give better results in muscle tissue without risking that it may not work.

We need your stats and as much information about yourself as possible to give direct advice on what you should be doing for somone at your level.

[*El Diablo*]

How do u figure out how much test one can handle????

If you havnt done anything yet,do just test.1000mg of test would be a bit much for your first cycle,some people have bad sides with that much test. 500 to 750 woild be a good start to see how you react to test.Adding EQ to your cycle will give you effects you wont get with just test,and it wont add any bad side effects.do a cycle to see how much test you can handle,then next time add 600mg of EQ and see how that works. All this is assuming the stuff you have is good,and not weak.