Pull Back....no bubbles, no blood?

[laduem88]

this happens to me once in awhile and i always just inject when this happens...anyone else sometimes not get bubbles or blood when they aspataite?

[Kibble]

You are supposed to get a big air bubble in the chamber. You will get blood or air. If you get nothing, then you need to pull back a little harder.

If you get blood in the chamber, you need to find a new injection site

[Kibble]

Maybe a clogged needle?

[laduem88]

You are supposed to get a big air bubble in the chamber. You will get blood or air. If you get nothing, then you need to pull back a little harder.

If you get blood in the chamber, you need to find a new injection site

i know that, thats common knowledge...but i pull back harder and nothing happens, its so weird, maybe pressure or something? bc when i pull back the plunger goes back down.

[2jz_calgary]

ive had that happen before where your muscle pulls it back in, if you pull hard enough you can see lotsof tiny air bubbles. Should be good to go as long as thre is no red. Were you injecting glute?

[gonzo6183]

From the medical knowledge that I have both military and civil, I do not believe you should be getting anything when you draw back, that is when you know you are in the correct place and in muscle. If anyone disagrees with me please feel free to let me know why, I am always open other opinions but my training has told me this is how it should be.
Where would the air come from anyway? air doesnt just float around in your muscles...

[laduem88]

ive had that happen before where your muscle pulls it back in, if you pull hard enough you can see lotsof tiny air bubbles. Should be good to go as long as thre is no red. Were you injecting glute?

quads..only happens there, never has happened with shoulders

[THE TANK 81]

I dont get bubbles its either blood or nothing. TANK

[laduem88]

From the medical knowledge that I have both military and civil, I do not believe you should be getting anything when you draw back, that is when you know you are in the correct place and in muscle. If anyone disagrees with me please feel free to let me know why, I am always open other opinions but my training has told me this is how it should be.
Where would the air come from anyway? air doesnt just float around in your muscles...

iv always wondered that was well...i always go with... no blood;no worries

[SunHangDo]

this happens to me once in awhile and i always just inject when this happens...anyone else sometimes not get bubbles or blood when they aspataite?

This commonly happens to androids who have no blood or muscle tissue to begin with. Don't fret, a lot of androids have had their memory wiped and believe they are human. You'll be happy to know that you don't actually need steroids! You can simply upgrade your hydraulic system to maximize your lifting capacity. Most local cybernetic labs will do this for you at minimal cost.

[LeroyB]

This commonly happens to androids who have no blood or muscle tissue to begin with. Don't fret, a lot of androids have had their memory wiped and believe they are human. You'll be happy to know that you don't actually need steroids! You can simply upgrade your hydraulic system to maximize your lifting capacity. Most local cybernetic labs will do this for you at minimal cost.

SunHangDo - NO

The bubbles you see (or don't see) when you aspirate are not from inside your tissue. They are pulled from withing the syringe, and have a lot to do with syringe size, how hard you pull back, and the liquid you are injecting (amount and type), size of needle.
So if you pull back enough that when you release the plunger tugs away from you finger tips back to its point of origin and you see no blood your fine.

[diesel094]

i know what your talking about man.... this happens to me in the quads too... i usually see tiny bubbles, but a lot of them... but it is under pressure because when i let go the bubbles shoot back into the leg... i always shoot and never had any problems

[TITANIUM]

SunHangDo - NO

The bubbles you see (or don't see) when you aspirate are not from inside your tissue. They are pulled from withing the syringe, and have a lot to do with syringe size, how hard you pull back, and the liquid you are injecting (amount and type), size of needle.
So if you pull back enough that when you release the plunger tugs away from you finger tips back to its point of origin and you see no blood your fine.

YUP!^^^^^^^


Best

T

[amcon]

damn you!!!! i just injected winny and i never ever asperate... i just hit a vien and almost passed out after pushing 1.5 cc of winny in my viens - ****er!!!!

damn now im all hot and light headed, body temp feels like im on fire - thanks if i die cuz you jinxed me im going to dull all of your pins!!!

[jester4710]

According to this lady, a doctor/nurse/hormone therapist of some kind, said you shouldn't see any bubbles or blood when preforming an IM injection. She said that, "it shouldn't pull back at all because your in muscle and there's no air in muscle."

Sorry if you don't like this video. I guess some chick is using test to become manlier.

Fast forward to 6:15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af6Fp98Xy_Q

[TITANIUM]

damn you!!!! i just injected winny and i never ever asperate... i just hit a vien and almost passed out after pushing 1.5 cc of winny in my viens - ****er!!!!

damn now im all hot and light headed, body temp feels like im on fire - thanks if i die cuz you jinxed me im going to dull all of your pins!!!

I inject in my glutes exclusively.

Alot of muscle there and never aspirated blood.

Passed through veins to get there, and bled.

Lay down and relax bro!

Best

T

[amcon]

I inject in my glutes exclusively.

Alot of muscle there and never aspirated blood.

Passed through veins to get there, and bled.

Lay down and relax bro!

Best

T

i hit the glue with the winny ... bad luck i guess, test goes in the ohter glute and tren in either quad or shoulder

im going to go lay down -lol i feel like crap

suck with a captiol S when tren hits a vien but that winny almost made me pass out - oops

[gonzo6183]

OK just been through 3 med journals that I have on hand, aspiration is NOT neccessary for IM injection although it is recommended by many doctors and lecturers. AIR bubbles should NOT appear on aspiration and if it does you have simply aspirated too hard and are sucking air from outside the body through the injected site.

^^^Amcon, this can be a VERY serious issue and may result in an embolism, lay down, relax, drink plenty of water and make sure you have somebody with you at all times over the next few hours to monitor your conciousness, if it deteriorates make sure they call an ambulance immediately. Not to make you stress too much (the odds are low but definitly possible) but this can be very serious.

Gonzo

[laduem88]

OK just been through 3 med journals that I have on hand, aspiration is NOT neccessary for IM injection although it is recommended by many doctors and lecturers. AIR bubbles should NOT appear on aspiration and if it does you have simply aspirated too hard and are sucking air from outside the body through the injected site.

^^^Amcon, this can be a VERY serious issue and may result in an embolism, lay down, relax, drink plenty of water and make sure you have somebody with you at all times over the next few hours to monitor your conciousness, if it deteriorates make sure they call an ambulance immediately. Not to make you stress too much (the odds are low but definitly possible) but this can be very serious.

Gonzo

i think the air bubbles are from just air in the needle, i sometimes see a little bubble forming where the needle connects to the syringe. as far as not having to aspirtate, they arnt saying that in regards to steroids and oil based shots, keep in mind most shots are water based like flu shots

[vaders4]

I've jabbed quite a few people. From my experience, some make bubbles, some don't!

[gonzo6183]

i think the air bubbles are from just air in the needle, i sometimes see a little bubble forming where the needle connects to the syringe. as far as not having to aspirtate, they arnt saying that in regards to steroids and oil based shots, keep in mind most shots are water based like flu shots

^^^ Agreed and I would ALWAYS recommend aspiration and do it with every shot I give, a few bubbles is no issue and may come from a few different places although I havent seen it... As for the comparison between AAS and other shots there is no real difference, they are both designed for IM injection and can both cause severe issues if the are accidently given as IV.

[laduem88]

^^^ Agreed and I would ALWAYS recommend aspiration and do it with every shot I give, a few bubbles is no issue and may come from a few different places although I havent seen it... As for the comparison between AAS and other shots there is no real difference, they are both designed for IM injection and can both cause severe issues if the are accidently given as IV.

i think oil based are harder on your body and more dangerous if there given as IV. Read that somewhere awhile back

[gonzo6183]

i think oil based are harder on your body and more dangerous if there given as IV. Read that somewhere awhile back

Yeah that wouldnt actually suprise me as im sure if you ended up with an oil in your aveoli that could cause more problems with oxygen diffusion that a water based substance although BOTH can still be a serious problem.

[wharton]

Bubbles = shoot
Nothing = shoot
Blood = No shoot

simple lol

[KimboHalfSlice]

Also, I was told by a former heroin addict that when the pin of a needle is actually in a vein, you barely need to pull on the plunger at all, your blood pressure is enough to pump the blood into the syringe. (And remember that blood pressure is less in veins than arteries, so it would be even more dramatic if you were inside an artery).

I give the plunger a gentle little tug. If there's no blood, I start pushing. I am careful though not to push the needle in any further after aspirating because that extra little push might put it into an artery.

I've aspirated blood twice, but both times the blood filled the syringe slowly and I had to pull the blood out myself, it didn't just rush into the syringe. If the tip of the needle had been in an artery then I reckon the blood would have rushed in, so that makes me think I must have just scraped an artery on the way in.

Bubbles = shoot
Nothing = shoot
Blood = No shoot

simple lol

I agree. If there's no blood then pump the stuff in.

[Kibble]

I doubt that the blood pressure is enough to push the plunger back. It would have to do that to fill with blood, unless it forces the oil out of the chamber and swaps with the blood. Heroin users also use a bigger needle, and inject directly into veins

[KimboHalfSlice]

I doubt that the blood pressure is enough to push the plunger back. It would have to do that to fill with blood, unless it forces the oil out of the chamber and swaps with the blood. Heroin users also use a bigger needle, and inject directly into veins

Maybe you would just see red flares of blood pass thru the oil?

One way to find out... fill a needle with Test oil and stick it into a vein (or artery). I'm not mad on trying it tho.

what kind of advice is this? please think before you post because some of your advice can be dangerous.

thanx
-PT

[amcon]

ya thanks for the feed back... that sucked (winny in a vien) i got really light headed and almost passed out, was hard to focus after.... and brothers i have been rocked in the head with pipes and hit trees 30+ miles an hour on my bike, hit by cars, finger bit off - never ever passed out. that was close to me going down - no pain just light headed and couldnt focus.

btw - what ever i hit left a good amount of blood in the needle. i noticed after i pulled it out and threw it away.

feel fine now - but that sucked -

so i guess the moral of the story is if your using water based products asperate, also the tren it u inject i the vien with that stuff the coughing fit will just about blow you lungs out.

[Bullnutz]

This commonly happens to androids who have no blood or muscle tissue to begin with. Don't fret, a lot of androids have had their memory wiped and believe they are human. You'll be happy to know that you don't actually need steroids! You can simply upgrade your hydraulic system to maximize your lifting capacity. Most local cybernetic labs will do this for you at minimal cost.

Go play with your transformers and leave the advice to humans.Tool.

[Kibble]

Maybe you would just see red flares of blood pass thru the oil?

One way to find out... fill a needle with Test oil and stick it into a vein (or artery). I'm not mad on trying it tho.

what kind of advice is this? please think before you post because some of your advice can be dangerous.

thanx
-PT

Whoa whoa whoa.

To anybody reading this.... do NOT do what is in bold lettering above. That should not be done under any circumstance.

Second, Almond, you said that you would not do it. Then why would you suggest for someone else to do it?

[dec11]

Maybe you would just see red flares of blood pass thru the oil?

One way to find out... fill a needle with Test oil and stick it into a vein (or artery). I'm not mad on trying it tho.

what kind of advice is this? please think before you post because some of your advice can be dangerous.

thanx
-PT

my god, would you please just stop, how many warnings do you need b4 your banned?! dont you realise some ppl arent as sharp as others and may try something stupid like that?