Yup, they all have issues. I never dated one or nothing that could be considered a relationship. I knew many.
A friend of mine was really good at sewing. He was creative in many way. He could play any instrument you can think of and of course a great drummer, good artist and started designing and sewing bathing suits in the 80s. He had no business sense though. I saw it as a business opportunity. He wanted to borrow money from me so he could buy some more material to make some more bathing suites for samples. He would go to the beach and show them to girls and make custom suits for them (spandex). He was good but didnt make much profit and no didnt get laid nearly as much as he should have. he had the looks, long blond hair like David Le Roth and the boyish looks but he just couldnt close the deal so to speak. lol
When he told me he wanted to borrow money I said OK with one stipulation; I become a partner and I will help make it a business. He said OK. I made the mistake or taking it for face value, friendship shake of hands but no money transaction yet. I took him to a strip club, showed the girls the bathing suits and some of the drawings and soon we had 30 girls around us making orders. Next day when I tried to call him, nothing. 3 days later when I caught up to him he said his parents had bought him a bunch of material so he didnt need me to invest anymore. LOL I know in his heart he did not think he was doing anything wrong so I couldnt get angry and considered it a life lesson.
He ended up designing swim suits, fashion wear, stripper clothes for every strip club in Washington State and 1/2 of Oregon. He never made any money and was always broke because he had no business sense. He even desiged full body downhill racing suites for one of the world record holders in skiing but when the Canadian ski team called him to make them custom suits he never came through, never had the time. Every time he had a big chance (he had several) he blew it.
Anyway, I still hung out with him and I got to know a LOT of strippers. I got into all the clubs free, free dances etc. They all have interesting life stories. There are some girls who really are nice, interesting but 90% if not more are mixed up in drugs one way or another and they are always broke even making $300-500 a night in tips. Ive known girls who do plenty to get their tips and some who are on the up and up only dance and no groping or extras. I had the reputation of being the NICE guy since I never tried to take advantage of any of the girls, I gave a few girls rides home when they didnt feel well or drunk, I was a shoulder they could cry on about? or just someone to talk to who didnt just stare at their boobs. I have very good peripheral vision.
More than once I had one of the girls who decided they did want/need company on certain nights so it was all good.
One girl in particular, cute, 20yr old full Italian 5' 2" with 40D or larger and weighed 110lbs maybe (20 lbs or chest) decided she needed to educate me because she had heard what a nice guy I was and to her nice mean innocent.
After her asking me for a ride one day and then telling me she had the day planned out for me and I was not going home until she educated me a little, needless to say it was a good/fun day. I dont remember learning anything but I got a lot of good practice in. Later that evening after several hours of sweating together and taking a break I asked her at what point she was going to teach me something? She said Fvck you, if you knew anymore you would kill me. LOL She gave me one of the best compliment I had gotten also, she said she was Bi but had only been strictly with girls the last few years; it was her preference. She said I was as good as any girl she had ever been with at going down on her and better than most.
We continued like this for about 4 months. She was fun in more ways than one. She use to tease me about bringing over one of her girlfriends little sisters (barely 18) for us to play with. lol BTW, her father was some big shot politician with money so she was just another rebellious spoiled little girl. LOL
Another one I know same thing, 19, HOT hot hot. Only friends with her, never tapped it. I met daddy. She warned me NOT to let him know I was 26 or he would be angry, I was to old. I had long blond rocker hair back then and looked like the typical punk more or less but didnt have the attitude most do/did. I meet daddy on his 95' yacht he was retrofitting with all new instruments and gauges. Turns out daddy was one of the original owners of the Seattle yacht and had $$$$. Yes he asked me how old I was, I'm a terrible lair so I said 26; frown, then he asked me what I did for work. I told him. working for a major commercial aircraft company building tools for production and master models. Prior to that I worded doing construction/drywall for 2 1/2 years and cutting wood 2 years prior.
Daddy wanted me to see if I could take time off work to go on a month long cruise with them and his daughter. hahahahaha Daddy was upset when she told him we are only friends. I was the first non looser she had ever brought home. LOL Spoiled little girls sure do seem to go wrong easily. Got to love it.
Last I heard she had gotten worse, got into some hard core drugs, maybe heroin and had slipped pretty far out of it. Last time I saw her like a year later she looked pretty rough. To bad, she was beautiful.
All that said, I would never consider getting involved with one anything more than for fun unless you want a life of drama.
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