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    abuse of juice for a while, now very high prolactine lvls

    Hi guys

    I've been ABÙSING steroids for about 30months in a row. My doctor and I have planned that i need to get off steroids for good, a heavy PCT has been planned complete with a lot of regular bloodtests and so forth.

    The problem is, that i've been expierencing very high prolactine levels for the last couple of months (milkproduction in my nipples is actually an issue this very moment) my libido is fair, i'm able to have sex about 1-2 times a day, but prolactine might be lowering my libido quite a lot.

    My doctor believes it's due to the prolonged steroid abuse, and that PERHAPS the prolactine levels will decrease when i've stopped using steroids.

    Now, my question is, have any of you expierenced elevated prolactine levels? And did they subside after the PCT?

    Should i use dostinex to lower my prolactine levels or should i just wait till after the PCT? Will high prolactine levels make it harder for me to recover?

    Any expierence on the dostinex sideeffects and so forth?

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    Prolactin is only an issue with Deca and Tren really. So if you did abuse that your doctor should have prescribed you bromo or caber to lower progesterone levels which aids prolactin production (If I am not mistaken)

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    Yup... you'll need a dopamine agonist (bromo or caber) if your doc can't prescribe them to you, then you can usually get them online from your source (or from ar-r.com)

    What was your progesterone levels/ranges on your last BW? If you're lactating they must been extremely elevated.

    In any case, buy one of the two compounds previously recommended ^^.... and begin it ASAP - you should want to start lactation inhibition immediately!

    ... unless you want to start breast feeding or something??? hahaha (jokes!)

    Best of luck,

    VM

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    thank you very much for your replies.

    I've been off deca and Tren for about 3 months (it's easier to PCT with only TEST in the system) and my prolactine is still EXTREMELY high. I've been lactating for 2 months, but i do not have the prolactine numbers.

    I'm getting pretty sick of it. Besides that i feel like my libido is very low, although i am able to have sex..

    What drug should i go with (in terms of sides) and could b6 be an option?
    My doctor doesn't want to perscribe any prolactine medicine, until i'm completely off the juice.

    what kind of complications can be linked to elevated prolactine levels and lactation?

    Best Regards, Juggler

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    what were you doing dosage wise and compound wise for 30 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    what were you doing dosage wise and compound wise for 30 months?
    Stupid and uncontrolled doses, I was generally speaking a complete idiot who should have taken better care of my body..

    Up to 2g of test and 1g of tren..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immortal Soldier View Post
    Prolactin is only an issue with Deca and Tren really. So if you did abuse that your doctor should have prescribed you bromo or caber to lower progesterone levels which aids prolactin production (If I am not mistaken)
    No, not just progestins.

    If the compound aromatizes, interacts with the estradiol receptor, then there will be an effect on prolactin secretion. Its regulated at the anterior pituitary gland.

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    You ran a deca tren only cycle???

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    If your using exogenous testosterone, use an AI. It will reduce aromotase and prolactin secretion. Its does this by manipulating the 'long feedback mechanism'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    If your using exogenous testosterone, use an AI. It will reduce aromotase and prolactin secretion. Its does this by manipulating the 'long feedback mechanism'.
    is that 1g+ of test? i always use a light dose of letro anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    If your using exogenous testosterone, use an AI. It will reduce aromotase and prolactin secretion. Its does this by manipulating the 'long feedback mechanism'.
    thanks.. Perhaps i should do drostinex just before the pct, to lower the prolactine completely and make sure it doesn't affect my recovery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler View Post
    Stupid and uncontrolled doses, I was generally speaking a complete idiot who should have taken better care of my body..

    Up to 2g of test and 1g of tren..

    is that with no break for 30 months? 1g of tren is a alot though, as well as 2g of test....never knew why people ran test past a gram, makes no sense to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    is that 1g+ of test? i always use a light dose of letro anyways
    No, almost any amount. Even HRT doses can raise PRL a great deal from estrogen aromotasation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    is that with no break for 30 months? 1g of tren is a alot though, as well as 2g of test....never knew why people ran test past a gram, makes no sense to me
    nope, i peaked for 1-2 weeks at 1g af tren, didn't do it for a very long time..

    In generel my tren doses were around 400-500mgs EW.

    Test past 1g did amazing stuff to my body, although it was idiotic anyway..

    I don't really care about being big and that sort of stuff anymore, i just want to be clean, healthy and around 220lbs with no libido problems, bloating or having to inject something every week.. Steroid-ABUSE sucks big time..

    Steroids are okay if used properly though..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tboney View Post
    You ran a deca tren only cycle???


    no, never did, never said so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    No, not just progestins.

    If the compound aromatizes, interacts with the estradiol receptor, then there will be an effect on prolactin secretion. Its regulated at the anterior pituitary gland.
    Agreed^^^^ I have not seen it much here but it does happen without tren or deca


    I have to ask what where your stats starting and what are your current stats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swifto View Post
    No, almost any amount. Even HRT doses can raise PRL a great deal from estrogen aromotasation.
    so when cursing on 200mg ew i should continue to use letro on a low dose even if im going to use Proviron?

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    how huge are you now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlphaMaleDawg View Post
    how huge are you now?

    i'm about 105kgs pretty ripped.. But my peak was 115kgs..

    Benched about 170kgs x3..

    But i don't wanna be big anymore, i wanna be healthy, have kids, stop being paranoid about my size and health, i'm addicted to roids, and it has to stop!

    that's why i'm planning a major PCT, which has to be as good as possible, with the fastest possible recovery.. Luckily i haven't pcted that much and i'm super sensitive to HCG and nolvadex..

    I'm planning a PCT with aromasin, nolvadex, hcg and possibly drostinex to combat prolactin quick and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler View Post
    i'm about 105kgs pretty ripped.. But my peak was 115kgs..

    Benched about 170kgs x3..

    But i don't wanna be big anymore, i wanna be healthy, have kids, stop being paranoid about my size and health, i'm addicted to roids, and it has to stop!

    that's why i'm planning a major PCT, which has to be as good as possible, with the fastest possible recovery.. Luckily i haven't pcted that much and i'm super sensitive to HCG and nolvadex..

    I'm planning a PCT with aromasin, nolvadex, hcg and possibly drostinex to combat prolactin quick and easy.
    look into HMG, very expensive but i hear good things

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    Quote Originally Posted by laduem88 View Post
    so when cursing on 200mg ew i should continue to use letro on a low dose even if im going to use Proviron?
    Its very individual, but you should control estrogen and prolactin and not let them get out of normal ranges IMHO. Get BW done on 200mg/wk and see where you stand in regards to their values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler View Post
    i'm about 105kgs pretty ripped.. But my peak was 115kgs..

    Benched about 170kgs x3..

    But i don't wanna be big anymore, i wanna be healthy, have kids, stop being paranoid about my size and health, i'm addicted to roids, and it has to stop!

    that's why i'm planning a major PCT, which has to be as good as possible, with the fastest possible recovery.. Luckily i haven't pcted that much and i'm super sensitive to HCG and nolvadex..

    I'm planning a PCT with aromasin, nolvadex, hcg and possibly drostinex to combat prolactin quick and easy.
    I just want to say good for you! Addiction is a very serious thing, no matter what the substance is. That's cool that you recognized the problem and you are now taking steps to deal with it. Good job and good luck to you!

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    30 months of juice and only weighing 230lbs? what were your stats before you started?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMacFar View Post
    30 months of juice and only weighing 230lbs? what were your stats before you started?
    bodyfat is also key, don't go by just weight

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    Quote Originally Posted by NMacFar View Post
    30 months of juice and only weighing 230lbs? what were your stats before you started?
    you're just a moron.. 230lbs was my ripped weight..

    Still idc... I'd much rather be below 220lbs and happy with my life and without any addictions

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    Quote Originally Posted by the juggler View Post
    Hi guys

    I've been ABÙSING steroids for about 30months in a row. My doctor and I have planned that i need to get off steroids for good, a heavy PCT has been planned complete with a lot of regular bloodtests and so forth.

    The problem is, that i've been expierencing very high prolactine levels for the last couple of months (milkproduction in my nipples is actually an issue this very moment) my libido is fair, i'm able to have sex about 1-2 times a day, but prolactine might be lowering my libido quite a lot.

    My doctor believes it's due to the prolonged steroid abuse, and that PERHAPS the prolactine levels will decrease when i've stopped using steroids.

    Now, my question is, have any of you expierenced elevated prolactine levels? And did they subside after the PCT?

    Should i use dostinex to lower my prolactine levels or should i just wait till after the PCT? Will high prolactine levels make it harder for me to recover?

    Any expierence on the dostinex sideeffects and so forth?
    i know this is an off topic question but jesus i gotta ask, so since milk production is an issue, can u shoot out milk from ur nipples? that'd be the ultimate gross out. i didn't know dudes produced milk
    Last edited by lovestospooge23; 02-17-2010 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quo View Post
    I just want to say good for you! Addiction is a very serious thing, no matter what the substance is. That's cool that you recognized the problem and you are now taking steps to deal with it. Good job and good luck to you!
    i agree. . . 30 years is a long time and thank God you have had a change in mind. .

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    Search "how to use Caber" thread. Very interesting read. Tell you everything you need to know.

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    ^^^ haha, your a sick dude

    105kg ripped is massive dude... im having trouble getting over 90kg, but om only doing maximum of 2 cycles a year, doing the "normal" doses.

    anyway, get of the gear and start pct, seems you got everything if there that need to be there, get some clomid in there...

    good luck!

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