Beginnger, suit me up, willing to learn it all a-z. All help very much appreciated.

[GearMeUp]

I really want to do this right and am preparing a month in advance so that I can do it correct; safety to main focus. Will post pictures later in the day.

My main focus on exercise is running and consists of weight lifting.

• Age: 19
• Height: 5'10"
• Weight: 20
• BF%: 17-22
• Cycle Exp: 0
• PCT Knowledge: ?
• Training Exp: 2-3 yrs
• Diet: healthy and lean for the most part.

Obviosly the "ripped" look is what I am after. Definitely want to build some nice mass as well. This will be my first time and I am being extremely cautious.


Things to cover

1. Legitimate sources
2. Best combination of chemicals
3. Things to know when shipping (USA)
4. Side effects (as well as long and short term effects)

-Will add more as concerns arise.

Thank you all you for your support and good advice.

[GearMeUp]

Reserved

[TheSentinal]

I think most members here will tell you that you are too young to begin taking AAS. I would agree. Your BF% does not match your pic. You look like you have some decent size naturally. I would suggest working on your diet. If you lean out through diet and cardio, you should get the look you want.

[BIG_GUNS_21]

TO YOUNG! Wait a couple years. In those couple of years if you diet/cardio and weight train properly you will already get that ripped look.

• Age: 19
• Height: 5'10"
• Weight: 20
• BF%: 17-22
• Cycle Exp: 0
• PCT Knowledge: ?
• Training Exp: 2-3 yrs
• Diet: healthy and lean for the most part.

Things to cover

1. Legitimate sources
2. Best combination of chemicals
3. Things to know when shipping (USA)
4. Side effects (as well as long and short term effects)

[Hard.On]

I really want to do this right and am preparing a month in advance so that I can do it correct; safety to main focus. Will post pictures later in the day.

My main focus on exercise is running and consists of weight lifting.

• Age: 19
• Height: 5'10"
• Weight: 20
• BF%: 17-22
• Cycle Exp: 0
• PCT Knowledge: ?
• Training Exp: 2-3 yrs
• Diet: healthy and lean for the most part.

Obviosly the "ripped" look is what I am after. Definitely want to build some nice mass as well. This will be my first time and I am being extremely cautious.


Things to cover

1. Legitimate sources
2. Best combination of chemicals
3. Things to know when shipping (USA)
4. Side effects (as well as long and short term effects)

-Will add more as concerns arise.

Thank you all you for your support and good advice.

Things to cover

Do some ****en research

[GearMeUp]

okay i will accept that. anything I can take as a stimulant and fat burner? okay so one core chemical that focuses on increasing metabolism and increasing focus/energy????

[AnimalJ]

okay i will accept that. anything I can take as a stimulant and fat burner? okay so one core chemical that focuses on increasing metabolism and increasing focus/energy????

http://www.australia-bodybuilding.co...lic%20Diet.pdf

[Hard.On]

okay i will accept that. anything I can take as a stimulant and fat burner? okay so one core chemical that focuses on increasing metabolism and increasing focus/energy????

NoXplode, (Ephedrine, Caffine & aspirin)ECA Stack

[GearMeUp]

http://www.australia-bodybuilding.co...lic%20Diet.pdf

read even though i am not taking chemicals?

NoXplode, (Ephedrine, Caffine & aspirin)ECA Stack

I am currently taking noXplode and will research ECA. Is it a combine supplement? what exactly is it, injected?

[Hard.On]

read even though i am not taking chemicals?



I am currently taking noXplode and will research ECA. Is it a combine supplement? what exactly is it, injected?

no not injected
all pills
you make it your self by buying all the ingredients
tons of info on it
search: ECA STack

[GearMeUp]

great thanks that seems to be the winner? any others to compare against?

[Phate]

great thanks that seems to be the winner? any others to compare against?

clen
ECY(don't use ECA, the aspirin doesn't work as once thought, btw, the y is yohimbine hcl(not yohimbe))
albuterol

any of those will help you shed fat, but your diet must be very strict, for that reason i would recommend ECY as it's easier to get and maintain, can be run for long durations, and decreases appetite

post your diet for critique

[GearMeUp]

so ECY; EPHEDRINE hcl, caffeine, and yohimbine hcl together for success? This is called Clen?

What about just getting this
http://www.*********.com/cutting-stack-p-11.html
roid store

[Phate]

so ECY; EPHEDRINE hcl, caffeine, and yohimbine hcl together for success? This is called Clen?

no, clen is clenbuterol

Clen FAQ
contributed by WARmachine ~ Written by perfectbeast2001
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=269240

Albuterol
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...nthony+roberts

ECY is different from both of these

[GearMeUp]

Ah okay I am understanding now. That post on Albuterol is very convincing and says i should take it instead of clen. Yes/no??? ECYA or ECYC??? Suggestion where to buy? (illegal?)
SO:
EPHEDRINE hcl (illegal?)
http://www.supplementsoutlet.com/meva48.html
good?^^^

y-hcl, caffeine can be purchased anywhere so I am not concerned.

[Phate]

just ECY

for the ephedrine just go to the pharmacy and ask for bronkaid, it has ephedrine sulfate and is OTC

[GearMeUp]

thanks so much man! will be cutting my portion size, increasing cardio, and taking ECY asap

[Hard.On]

clen
ECY(don't use ECA, the aspirin doesn't work as once thought, btw, the y is yohimbine hcl(not yohimbe))
albuterol

any of those will help you shed fat, but your diet must be very strict, for that reason i would recommend ECY as it's easier to get and maintain, can be run for long durations, and decreases appetite

post your diet for critique

Once thought?
Myself and lots of others that I know have taken this stack with success and I have not heard that it doesnt work until now

[GearMeUp]

the y or the a

[Phate]

Once thought?
Myself and lots of others that I know have taken this stack with success and I have not heard that it doesnt work until now

i don't mean the whole stack, just the aspirin part

the caffeine and aspirin are supposed to slow the breakdown of epinephrine, specifically the aspirin is supposed to inhibit prostanglandin formation which breaks down epinephrine, but i remember reading a study that showed that was false, i'll see if i can pull it up

ECY on the other hand has the added benefits of yohimbine, which is an alpha receptor agonist

[TITANIUM]

i don't mean the whole stack, just the aspirin part

the caffeine and aspirin are supposed to slow the breakdown of epinephrine, specifically the aspirin is supposed to inhibit prostanglandin formation which breaks down epinephrine, but i remember reading a study that showed that was false, i'll see if i can pull it up

ECY on the other hand has the added benefits of yohimbine, which is an alpha receptor agonist

Phate is a fountain of information.

Best

T

[GearMeUp]

yes i noticed and I trust his information. ordering this stack today

[Phate]

Phate is a fountain of information.

Best

T

thanks bro

yes i noticed and I trust his information. ordering this stack today

hopefully i can earn that trust, but as long as you are willing to listen and research(which you have shown you have no problem doing), the members of this forum will be behind you 100%, that's one thing i love about this place, it's more like a brotherhood or family then a collections of individuals

[GearMeUp]

thats great to know, i really appreciate all the help so far!