protien intake?

[bigjoe30]

how much can your body take in at one serving?

[americanoak]

ive heard 50, but... i dont think there is a set number. Somebody posted in another thread that some of Jay Cutlers meals contain 100g of protein so who knows

[bigjoe30]

ive heard 50, but... i dont think there is a set number. Somebody posted in another thread that some of Jay Cutlers meals contain 100g of protein so who knows

i always heard 30-35 so right now the meals im eating are 40g of protien i would up that but i dont want it to go to waste either.

[americanoak]

i'de say 40g of protein in a meal is def enough, but im not the expert on that. I heard if you ingest too much protein it just gets stored as fat anyway so better a little less than a little more imo

[Damienm05]

i'de say 40g of protein in a meal is def enough, but im not the expert on that. I heard if you ingest too much protein it just gets stored as fat anyway so better a little less than a little more imo

Protein is never stored as fat. You use it or lose it.

40g is the standard.

[bigjoe30]

think we need fireguy to chime in on this one!!

[americanoak]

Protein is never stored as fat. You use it or lose it.

40g is the standard.

use it or lose it? lol where does it go..
if you eat 200g of protein in a meal im sure some of that is turning to fat

[bigjoe30]

there has to be a #

[americanoak]

http://www.body-perfect-fitness.com/...-you-need.html

this is a site explaing about how much protein to have.
Yes, protein can turn to fat Damienm05. You dont just "lose it" as you put it. You dont lose something was its in your body. You either burn it off or its stored for later energy, aka fat.

[Damienm05]

Lol, I think you're confused. Protein is calories. Excessive calories can yield excess body fat, however, unlike carbs/fat protein is not an energy source and is not burned in the same way. Whatever your body doesn't need is passed through urine; this is why we don't eat 200g in one meal (it is not stored and we won't be able to use it later).

[bjohnson1968]

First off, protein requirements. This is largely going to depend on the particular individuals circumstance but there are general guidelines you can follow. Most active individuals will do well on about 0.8 grams of protein per pound of lean body tissue. For simplicity sake, if you round this up to 1 gram per pound you will get a nice, easy to calculate number. This is assuming that the rest of their nutritional intake is adequate however.

On the other hand, if you have someone who is currently dieting and is taking in a very low calorie intake, their requirements are going to increase. The reason for this increase is because as calorie level drops, more protein is going to be utilized by the body for fuel and less will be available for the repair of the bodily tissues. This makes it even more important to get a little extra because dieting itself is a stressor on the body and if you don't, you aren't going to be recovering as quickly from your workouts and a loss of muscle mass will results. So how much should you increase this by? Try going up to 1.2-1.3 grams/lb at first and if you plan on taking your calories really quite low (around the 8-10 cals/lb mark), bump it up even further to 1.5 grams/lb. At this point this amount of protein will serve to really protect you from any muscle mass loss which is exactly what you want while you are dieting.

Similarly, people who are 'bulking' - basically eating at a calorie surplus so that they can gain lean muscle mass will require less protein than others since you can be sure that they are providing their body enough energy that all the protein they do eat will be utilized strictly for growth and repair. This doesn't mean they can't eat more protein than the 0.8 grams/lb, but it simply isn't necessary.

And as for those people who decide to really overload their system and eat 2-3 grams/lb, that is very much overkill and while it will not particularly harm them if they have no prior kidney damage, it is definitely not necessary at all and much of the protein will go to waste (be stored as fat or excreted).

The final thing to consider is this notion that the body can only use 30 grams of protein at one time. So far there have not been any studies to confirm this fact and when you do go over the 30 gram protein intake, all that usually happens is your body then takes longer to digest the protein. Obviously eating 100 grams per sitting isn't the wisest of ideas and if you do have fairly large requirements it will be easier from an eating perspective to spread it out over 3-6 meals, however if necessity calls for it to be centred around 2, that is really fine. The only one consideration to factor in is the pre and post workout period when getting in protein is critical in terms of promoting muscular growth and development

I got this when I searched protein absorption hope it helps

Peace

[americanoak]

Damienem05, I am not going to sit here and argue with you in someone elses thread, although i think Bigjoe has been given enough info to derive an answer for his queston.

However, If i decided to take my protein powder which is 90cals, 23g protein, 0fat, and 0 carbs and put 10 scoops of that into my blender and drank it all at once, you are telling me that i will just be pissing out around 200g of protein? If 200g of protein is ingested at one time you are taking in 800 calories. If people didnt gain weight by eating 800 cals at one time straight from protein then I would absolutly agree with you, but this doesnt happen.

Sure protein is the last source the body will use as fuel, but just because its the last doesnt mean it wont be stored as fat if too much is consumed.

[bigjoe30]

that sums it up ! i suck at searching but i love to ask questions get diffrent views and thoughts.

[americanoak]

that sums it up ! i suck at searching but i love to ask questions get diffrent views and thoughts.

hah, glad you got what you were looking for

[Damienm05]

Excess calories are stored as fat. Protein is 4 calories per gram. Consuming more protein than is usable in one feed will not result in storage. That is what I am saying, yes. If you eat over your TDEE consistently, even with protein only, you will gain weight but it's not stored as body fat otherwise. It is an absolute last resort for the body to convert excess protein into a store-able glycogen and very rare. I don't consider it hijacking a thread when I'm debunking stupid posts. No offense.

[americanoak]

Protein is never stored as fat. You use it or lose it.

40g is the standard.

im sorry but i would consider that a stupid post. He said his meals are at 40g protein already. If he was gonna up it anymore itd prolly be in the 50 to 60 range, either way it would be useless to him, maybe not stored as fat at that instant, but over time he would be consuming close to an extra 80 calories per meal which would lead to a harder time tring to cut fat. Aside from that, yes protein CAN be stored as fat and as i said above, "I heard if you have too much protein it can be stored as fat" i didnt say you will store fat if you have anymore than 40g of protein in a meal.

Anyway, i said what i had to say. If someone wants to chime in settle this i will gladly read and accept any factual information given. Otherwise I am done with this thread.

[FireGuy]

Excess protein can end up as stored body fat. It's not stored nearly as easily as fats and carbs but it absolutely can happen.

[FireGuy]

Damien, you do seem to have a few contradictory statements in this thread. I agree with what you are saying in principle as it takes a specific environment for this to happen but to say it never happens is false.

[FireGuy]

As far as the original question goes I dont believe anyone can give you an accurate answer as it will vary from person to person. The same would apply to asking how many carbs can someone eat without storing it as bodyfat. The type of protein being consumed would also play a large role as they digest at different rates. I would agree with most who already posted that 30-50 grams is a decent total. Most people aim for 200-400 grams per day and eat 6-8 times per day making this a convenient number.

[bigjoe30]

damn guys !! i didn't want anyone to argue over the ? LOL!! all i know is i did a good job today totaling everything up it was a little bit of a pain but not 2 bad, i have to start eating the veggies.

[Damienm05]

Fair enough, I did say "never" initially. I meant with regard to a reasonable serving of protein. Once the example of 10 scoops of whey was brought in, I had to revise. Point being, don't worry about protein being stored as fat unless you're eating stupid portions of it that couldn't possibly fit comfortably in one's stomach.

[progressive1]

Protein is not excreted in the urine. If it's found in measurable amounts in someone's urine, that means the person has some form of kidney disease. Excess protein can be stored as fat.

[americanoak]

anyway, glad bigjoe got what he was looking for lol

[bigjoe30]

anyway, glad bigjoe got what he was looking for lol

LOL!! i still say this diet shit is the hardest, keeping track of calories i guess that y everyone eats the same stuff everyday it makes it easy. i wish my wife was home or into this then she can prepare all my meals but she hates this and all the time im putting into it.