I hear these are not worth spending the money on had anybody tryed some with visible results I'm looking to put on good size I have a good diet and have been training 2years I've put on a good size chest and arm definition I train like a animal Ive tryed alsorts phd creatine usn anobolic post workout shakes nutrisport 90+ protein, super weight gainer 1500 cals per shake I snack on metrx protein bars just seems the size isn't coming can anybody recommend anything


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