Hdrol/ Tren PCT dosage

[bigslick7878]

After many, many hours trying to figure out the right PCT for this cycle I finally got a recommendation for a CEL rep on another board.

It is going to be....

SNS Reduce XT
SNS Inhibit E
SNS Liver Assist
CEL PCT Assist

Only question is should I pick a dose and stay with it the entire way through or start lower and step it up as I go on?

[Machdiesel]

After hours and hours this is what you came up with??? This is what you should use, not really up for debate.

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
NOlva - 40/40/20/20
Liver support - either milk thistle or liv 52

I personally am adding a product called Lean Xtreme bye Driven sports. It reduces cortisol and estrogen.

[bigslick7878]

After hours and hours this is what you came up with??? This is what you should use, not really up for debate.

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
NOlva - 40/40/20/20
Liver support - either milk thistle or liv 52

I personally am adding a product called Lean Xtreme bye Driven sports. It reduces cortisol and estrogen.

You can't use Nolva for tren. Every single person agreed on that part, that is why it was tough to figure what to use otherwise. That course of action is fine for Hdrol/Mdrol alone but not with tren in the mix. It has to do with Tren being a progestin and not aromatizing. Maybe someone can explain it for you that has a better understanding of it but that is one thing that is not "up for debate".

And yes I spent a ton of time reading up on it, like the past month.

I will go with the CEL rep and his recommendations and everything I have read.

[Machdiesel]

anyone else have thoughts on this?

[Vitruvian-Man]

You can't use Nolva for tren. Every single person agreed on that part, that is why it was tough to figure what to use otherwise. That course of action is fine for Hdrol/Mdrol alone but not with tren in the mix. It has to do with Tren being a progestin and not aromatizing. Maybe someone can explain it for you that has a better understanding of it but that is one thing that is not "up for debate".

And yes I spent a ton of time reading up on it, like the past month.

I will go with the CEL rep and his recommendations and everything I have read.

Well I hate to break it to you, but your research has got you no where. You're getting scammed by the CEL rep into buying more useless products. Do you truly believe any of those OTC supplements are going to aid in restoring your body's HPTA?

The answer is: NO!

None of those are SERMS. If you do this PH cycle, and your PCT consists of: "Reduce XT" and "Inhibit E" you will still be shut-down, and you will suffer from low testosterone symptoms until your body can eventually return to homeostasis.

Basically, you just got burned, and bought a bunch of useless crap. you got scammed by a company rep - that's not new to anyone on the internet

In any case, the answer was sitting right in front of you... "Machdiesel" is correct, you need to use nolvadex + clomid post cycle.

You can buy them both from the boards sponsor ar-r.com (or from any other research chem supplier online.)

Learn to do better research bro

Clomid - 100/100/50/50
NOlva - 40/40/20/20
Liver support - either milk thistle or liv 52

^^ This correct.

[Machdiesel]

If it makes the OP feel any better I am sure he can sell the stuff he bought on Ebay and get most of his money back. When you go to Ar-r click on combo deals and get the Clomi/Tamox combo (that is Clomid/nolva). this will be enough for your PCT

[bigslick7878]

Well I hate to break it to you, but your research has got you no where. You're getting scammed by the CEL rep into buying more useless products. Do you truly believe any of those OTC supplements are going to aid in restoring your body's HPTA?

The answer is: NO!

None of those are SERMS. If you do this PH cycle, and your PCT consists of: "Reduce XT" and "Inhibit E" you will still be shut-down, and you will suffer from low testosterone symptoms until your body can eventually return to homeostasis.

Basically, you just got burned, and bought a bunch of useless crap. you got scammed by a company rep - that's not new to anyone on the internet

In any case, the answer was sitting right in front of you... "Machdiesel" is correct, you need to use nolvadex + clomid post cycle.

You can buy them both from the boards sponsor ar-r.com (or from any other research chem supplier online.)

Learn to do better research bro




^^ This correct.

I guess no one realized that 3 of the 4 products he recommended are not from CEL or his company. I probably took that into account before I ordered the stuff.

I read a SERM was not necessary, I have only taken the tren for 3 weeks.

If I need one I can always take the tren for another week while the Nolva or Clomid gets here, it is not the end of the world. I mean I don't know what I will do since I just spent all of $70 getting "scammed" on products that pretty much everyone recommends SERM or not.

Have you ever used a tren based product before?

[Vitruvian-Man]

I guess no one realized that 3 of the 4 products he recommended are not from CEL or his company. I probably took that into account before I ordered the stuff.

I read a SERM was not necessary, I have only taken the tren for 3 weeks.

If I need one I can always take the tren for another week while the Nolva or Clomid gets here, it is not the end of the world. I mean I don't know what I will do since I just spent all of $70 getting "scammed" on products that pretty much everyone recommends SERM or not.

Have you ever used a tren based product before?

I could care less what you do to your body. Please makes sure to sign back on here 2 weeks post cycle, and tell us all about how you've had terrible erectile dysfunction, and you are lethargic and how you have no motivation to do anything. Not to mention all your gains are gone.

Have I run a tren based product? I've run tren for christ sake!

Do what you want.

-VM