Need advise /help with cycle

[chopper71]

I am new to the forum and looking for some advise/help.
I am 39 yrs old, 6'2" 225 lbs, I have been working out on and off since I was 18, since then I have varied in size and strength, my weight and body fat has gone up and down. I only experimented with "winstrol" about 8 years ago and since then i have not used anything.
I did develop gyno from the winstrol and ended up getting surgery in 2007.
Last year i got my hands on 2 bottles of Test E (300mg/ml, 10mL vial) and 2 bottles of Deca (300mg/ml, 10ml vial). I started to use this and within 2 weeks i could feel the tenderness in my nipples. I immeditaley stopped using it in fear i was going to get gyno again after i having my surgery.
I know there are ways to prevent gyno when doing a cycle, i did read an older post by "Bino-C", not sure if he is still on here but he mentioned using Letro.
I would like to start up a cycle using what I have, I would appreciate any suggestions on how much and how many times a week i should use the Test E and Deca that i have. Also your opinion on this Letro or any other suggestions on what to use on preventing the gyno.
Thank you all for your time, looking forward to your comments.

[Kibble]

You may want to get more Test E unless you are willing to run a low dose, around 300mg/week... which can be fine. Unsure of Deca, since I have never used it.

You cannot get gyno if you had the surgery. The surgery is supposed to remove the gland in the breast. Maybe you were just gaining fat around your nipples. Either that, or the surgery was done incorrectly.

Welcome to AR by the way!!

And people here run Adex and Nolva to prevent gyno. Letro should be used as a last rtesort (IMO) since it decimates estrogen, which plays a role in muscle growth and sex drive

[redz]

Winstrol doesn't cause gyno.....

[Kibble]

Maybe it was rebound

[chopper71]

regardless Redz I had it and got the surgery, do you have any opinion on the rest of my thread, i would greatly appreciate it.

[redz]

Did they remove the entire gland or just part of it?

[chopper71]

not sure

[D_iamond]

ok if you are not gonna try to help then dont bother posting unhelpfull BS... the only prob with running the both those steroids at the sametime means you will run out of both of them at the same time and the edeca will stay in your system for weeks and keep your sexual performance on complete hold imo you should run 300 mg twice per week for 8-10 weeks(whatever you have left) of the test. while running around 600-800mg/week of deca for the first 5 weeks and then stoping to allow proper sexual funcion to return after cycle also stay on arimidex or aromasin for the entirety of the cycle because of your predisposition to gyno varying your dose depending on nipple sensitivity or growth under the nipple.

[cobra305]

You should also get some nolva and clomid for your pct. There are threads at the top of the forum discussing pct you should read them they are very helpful.

[chopper71]

D iamond.....thanks for stepping up, much appreciated. Also thanks for the helpful info. What are your feelings on Nolva during the cycle for the gyno or some bro on here named Bino-C swears by Letro. Thanks again Bro.

[D_iamond]

nolva is very good but only stops estrogen from forming breast tissue the estrogen is still going to be high and causeing other estrogen sides and since you are obviously converting alot of test into estrogen(shown through your disposition to gyno) i believe that a Aromitaze inhibitor (spelled wrong prolly lol) is the better option because it actually stops your body from converting as much estrogen the aromasin lowers estrogen by about 85%ish and the arimidex by about 50%ish. letro is also an AI but it lowers estrogen by around 95% which is way to much for almost any body you need estrogen to make solid gains and for your sex drive!! i feel that nolva would be a great addition to your cycle to stop breast growth but if you the prices are reasonable a-dex would stop alot of the water gains associated with the drugs you want to take and give you very hard gains that would be a very very nice addition to your body. if however you still notice breat tissue growth after you have tried the less harsh chemicals ( dont worry this prolly wont happen) then you can deside to use letro you can either use it while on your cycle followed up by nolvadex for several weeks after you are done to stop estrogen rebound or you could wait until after your cycle and it would get rid of any breast tissue that may have developed very quickly and then follow up as previously said with nolva