is this a bs story?

[americanoak]

I was out the other night when a 19yo kid comes up to me and notices I was a pretty decent size.. He asks if I was on anything or if I was interested in buying.

He tells me he has M1t, and that he has taken it on a few seperate occasions. He seemed like a decent size, but had on a sweat shirt, so it was hard to tell.

From what I've read about M1t it is pretty harsh and he said he started running it when he was 18. He did I guess two 4 week cycles and claimed to add on 15-20lbs with each cycle. Im not sure what his PCT is, but trying not to act like a smart ass I asked him "Oh is there anything you take after the cycle to get your test back up?" He didnt know the name of the supp that he took for PCt and he said you take this dose for a month and you keep all of your gains.. It seemed too good to be true to keep all the gains, and the fact that he didnt know the name of his PCT.

Is it possible that this kid's natty test would even be functioning right now? He has a good amount of facial hair so he obv had some test flowing through him.

[stevey_6t9]

you just really wona jump on the gear dont you?

wait til ur older man trust me its not worth the risks

[americanoak]

dude if i was gonna go ahead on start a cycle I would have already.
I have been thinking about h drol a bit lately, but this thread is not some story to hear what people think about m1t..

I have already researched that aswell..

Really though, I love this forum untill it comes to a point where every single thread is made there is some type of post about someone cycling too early or bringing up old posts that the op made..

If someone doesnt like a thread then x out of it, it is as simple as that, i dont need peoples input on anything other than the question being addressed in the thread
thanks

and for your info, yes I can't wait untill my first cycle and am not afraid to admit

[gymnerd]

Well m1t is not being sold over the counter anymore. Some sources have started to carry it but from what I hear is its such a shitty compound overall sides super harsh etc most stop the cycle and throw it in the trash.

Will real M1t give you gains yes how much will you keep? Prob about the same as a drol or dbol only cycle which is not much. So in conclusion you will have shut yourself down hard stressed your liver bad feal like shit the entire time like no appetite and lethargic and then loose most of the gains , yeah where do I sign up? I would pass on that crap!!

[americanoak]

I actually knew where to get m1t before this kid brought it up, i rly just wanted to know if anything this kid was telling me was true or if he was just bull sh***** me to try to make some money

[gymnerd]

I actually knew where to get m1t before this kid brought it up, i rly just wanted to know if anything this kid was telling me was true or if he was just bull sh***** me to try to make some money

What exactly are you looking for?? If you can gain 15-20lbs in 4wks on M1t?? Yes I think its possible but will be very wet like dbol.

[americanoak]

i wanted to know if this kid was gonna be fkd up after he took all that stuff
I had a basic understanding of m1t before he came up ot me, but looked into it more after he did.

Reason 1 im asking: If he is telling the truth I know where i can maybe get legit gear from in the future, although I have a source or two already, mainly people I just met and ended up finding out they sell.

Reason 2: I don't like to be dicked over or to be made a fool out of

[Jbert22]

americanoak, dude feel free to ask any and whatever questions you want to bro!! dont worry bout people postin negative posts like stevey. although he makes a point, he provided no input on the negative sides of prohormones which can be just as bad or worse than aas. im actually kinda in shock that stevey actually had a neg post. usually he doesnt. maybe a bad day? lol. and you post alot here to and im glad to see you are willing to learn as much as possible before taking anything. thats good to hear man!!

[Jbert22]

and to ur question. a pal of mine who ran a couple cycles before ran m drol and gained bout 10 pounds. idk if it affected his hormone levels or not cuz im not fond of askin friends bout their nuts. if i were to run a pro hormone i would run it with liver protection and a pct

[AlphaMaleDawg]

pro hormones are are gonna convert to steroids when you take them. They really arent much different from real AAS. Age is still going to be a factor when it comes to those things.

[Vitruvian-Man]

americanoak, dude feel free to ask any and whatever questions you want to bro!! dont worry bout people postin negative posts like stevey. although he makes a point, he provided no input on the negative sides of prohormones which can be just as bad or worse than aas. im actually kinda in shock that stevey actually had a neg post. usually he doesnt. maybe a bad day? lol. and you post alot here to and im glad to see you are willing to learn as much as possible before taking anything. thats good to hear man!!

Making 41 threads in the first 2 months of membership on this site is a bit ridiculous.

That's why basically no one responds to this kids threads anymore.

If he bothered to use the search function for one bloody second 39/41 threads could have been avoided.

And yes, I'm having a terrible day.

In any case, alphas right.

-VM

[Jbert22]

u may be a senior member Vitruvian-Man, but why is everybody here just waiting to find somebody at fault? Some members on here just wana be a complete asshole. not sayin you or stevey are at all. this forum is for people to learn about aas. not to learn how to use the search button. if somebody has a reasonable question i will attempt to answer it. im so tired of people sayin negative shit. its beyond childish and makes the person look like a complete p u ss y.

[6ft5]

Yo, I believe m1t is methel 1-test. It is verry harsh on the liver only ran in 4 week cycles. It will shut u down. U can stack I w 1AD I belive to counteract some size and add more gains. Yes u do need a pct nolva clomid. Along w liver suport. 1AD is not that harsh on the liver. Best way to do pro hormones IMO, is transdermal and u can makem yourself. I've used prohormones in the past but not for years. The reson why they are banned is becuz they work and most work well. Its the youngsters and unedjucated that screw it up for those who could benifit from them. You can do a search for your best options and I think you can get raws on line lots are not illigal I don't think my search got cut short. But I'm still reading and learning.

[jordann]

Just take it for 2 weeks. You'll gain 100 pounds. Don't worry about diet.

[stevey_6t9]

u may be a senior member Vitruvian-Man, but why is everybody here just waiting to find somebody at fault? Some members on here just wana be a complete asshole. not sayin you or stevey are at all. this forum is for people to learn about aas. not to learn how to use the search button. if somebody has a reasonable question i will attempt to answer it. im so tired of people sayin negative shit. its beyond childish and makes the person look like a complete p u ss y.

we are not trying to be a$$holes, i dont log on this site to tell people they are idiots for asking something. asking questions is a great way to learn and there is nothing wrong with it.

my previous response was due to the OP creating numerous threads on asking if he can cycle young, will using PH's young do damage, people experiences cycling young, gains on young people cycling etc.

which i entailed to him to possibly wanting to cycle.

[thegodfather]

pro hormones are are gonna convert to steroids when you take them. They really arent much different from real AAS. Age is still going to be a factor when it comes to those things.

That's not true with most of the older pro-hormones, and many that are still on the market today. While that may have been true with things like Androstenedione, that is not the case with things like M1T and Superdrol.

M1T is Methyl 1-Test. It is a fully intact hormone that is metabolized by the body upon ingestion. No conversion is necessary for the body to use it, as would be the case for Andro, to be converted into Testosterone. Andro is a precursor, whereas things like M1T and Superdrol are fully intact synthetic hormones which do not need to be converted once in the body, only metabolized. Pro-hormones is really a very misleading name for these compounds, and the preferred terminology really is "designer steroids."

To the OP, please understand that these are real steroids, albeit modified structurally in order to avoid the Anabolic Steroid Control Act. The benefit of using traditional AAS such as Testosterone Enanthate, is that those compounds are FDA approved, and have a mountain of peer reviewed research behind them which clearly shows their efficacy and known side effects. You are really spinning the roulette wheel with designer steroids, since they are not subject to FDA guidelines, they have nowhere near the amount of research behind them. In some cases, people who abused designer steroids(prohomones) ended up in the hospital with severe cases of jaundice and renal failure because of their hepatoxicity. You would be hard pressed to achieve the same amount of damage with something like Testosterone Enanthate or Nandrolone Decanoate.

[ghettoboyd]

Making 41 threads in the first 2 months of membership on this site is a bit ridiculous.

That's why basically no one responds to this kids threads anymore.

If he bothered to use the search function for one bloody second 39/41 threads could have been avoided.

And yes, I'm having a terrible day.

In any case, alphas right.

-VM

i guess im going to be labeled a dick too then cus ive been here 2 years and have maybee started like 5 threads.....everything you want to know is here you just have to look for it....thats what i and many other peeps did to learn....its not hard you just have to actually do it....anyways op goodluck at whatever you choose to do.....

[Darksyde]

the reason searching is good before posting is so the site doesn't get clogged up with 100's of threads asking the same thing like it does now.

[americanoak]

i actually have veeb doing a lot of searches lately, mainly the reason i havent been making so many threads. I also made the threads because I wanted personal opinions on what I wanted to do.

I made a few diff threads on a few diff compunds and they all turned out to not be what I should take, so sorry for maing threads.. I was still kinda new to the site and wasnt really aware of how pissed people got for not using the almighty search button.

Thanks for all of the information, but does anyone think this kid was still lying?

also thanks jbert for backing me up a bit, appreciated

[thegodfather]

i actually have veeb doing a lot of searches lately, mainly the reason i havent been making so many threads. I also made the threads because I wanted personal opinions on what I wanted to do.

I made a few diff threads on a few diff compunds and they all turned out to not be what I should take, so sorry for maing threads.. I was still kinda new to the site and wasnt really aware of how pissed people got for not using the almighty search button.

Thanks for all of the information, but does anyone think this kid was still lying?

also thanks jbert for backing me up a bit, appreciated

Would it matter if he was or wasn't? Would you rather base your future cycle on what some random kid at a bar claims that he's done and offers to sell you (which is in all likelihood bullshit), or would you rather base it off the years and years of real cycle experience that members on this site have? Your decision man.

[Bossman]

I was out the other night when a 19yo kid comes up to me and notices I was a pretty decent size.. He asks if I was on anything or if I was interested in buying.

He tells me he has M1t, and that he has taken it on a few seperate occasions. He seemed like a decent size, but had on a sweat shirt, so it was hard to tell.

From what I've read about M1t it is pretty harsh and he said he started running it when he was 18. He did I guess two 4 week cycles and claimed to add on 15-20lbs with each cycle. Im not sure what his PCT is, but trying not to act like a smart ass I asked him "Oh is there anything you take after the cycle to get your test back up?" He didnt know the name of the supp that he took for PCt and he said you take this dose for a month and you keep all of your gains.. It seemed too good to be true to keep all the gains, and the fact that he didnt know the name of his PCT.

Is it possible that this kid's natty test would even be functioning right now? He has a good amount of facial hair so he obv had some test flowing through him.

I took M1t once before starting AAS. I did gain 15+ lbs but it was mainly bloat. I lost nearly all of it after stopping, even with a decent PCT. I felt like crap while on M1T. Now superdrol was a different story. I felt like I was on AAS and made good keepable gains. Ive even used superdrol before to jump start an AAS cycle.

I would never use M1T. It's a nasty Dbol substitute.

[dec11]

jez this kid wont give up with the bull, ev friggin day its a veiled question of some sort or another

[Mooseman33]

u may be a senior member Vitruvian-Man, but why is everybody here just waiting to find somebody at fault? Some members on here just wana be a complete asshole. not sayin you or stevey are at all. this forum is for people to learn about aas. not to learn how to use the search button. if somebody has a reasonable question i will attempt to answer it. im so tired of people sayin negative shit. its beyond childish and makes the person look like a complete p u ss y.

kids like the OP need to hear negative shit. Remeber we dont have to help people, we choose to.
there has to be a line on helping someone, if they do not have solid stats or age then they should not be given any advice other then to research and learn. if u tell them how to run a cycle they will do it, then when they have a problem they will blame this site...then the site goes away...

we are not helping people pick out some clothes, we are advising them on altering the chemicals in their body, which can have major side effects that can hurt people forever.
steroids are not candy, and even if you do them correct there is still a large chance that something bad will happen.

this kid is a thread starting machine who only wants to hear what he wants, i guess im an asshole cause i will always tell the truth, and this kid has no business using AAS yet....in time yes, but now, no fvking way...

[americanoak]

Making 41 threads in the first 2 months of membership on this site is a bit ridiculous.

That's why basically no one responds to this kids threads anymore.

If he bothered to use the search function for one bloody second 39/41 threads could have been avoided.

And yes, I'm having a terrible day.

In any case, alphas right.

-VM

I have made 41 threads yes, in the last 4 months. Most of which were on diet, clen, which I have taken in the past and wanted ot know a few extra things, and random others. Of the 41 threads Only about 4 or 5 were actually on AAs and of those about 3 of hem were on anavar alone. I realize I could have used the search button for the var questions as now i see a new thread on it every other day, but I was new to the forum and thought.. hey I have a question I
am going to ask it....

jez this kid wont give up with the bull, ev friggin day its a veiled question of some sort or another

This is the first thread in a while that I have made about a PH or AAS. I am not doing M1t and I was able to get it before I even met the kid. If I wanted to start a cycle I would know exactly what I would do, for how long, and at what dose.

That is not only for one compound, but for a few. Var, Test, Dbol, Hdrol, and even M1t I would all know how to run w/ correct PCT, correct pre cycle asist, as well as things to keep my cholestoral, BP, Liever, and other in check.

If I was going to cycle no matter what anyone says I would have done it already. I posted a thread in January about AAs, dont you think I would have started by now?

kids like the OP need to hear negative shit. Remeber we dont have to help people, we choose to.
there has to be a line on helping someone, if they do not have solid stats or age then they should not be given any advice other then to research and learn. if u tell them how to run a cycle they will do it, then when they have a problem they will blame this site...then the site goes away...

we are not helping people pick out some clothes, we are advising them on altering the chemicals in their body, which can have major side effects that can hurt people forever.
steroids are not candy, and even if you do them correct there is still a large chance that something bad will happen.

this kid is a thread starting machine who only wants to hear what he wants, i guess im an asshole cause i will always tell the truth, and this kid has no business using AAS yet....in time yes, but now, no fvking way...

As I stated above I knew that M1t was a harsh compound, and even PM'd a vet asking about it because when the kid came up to me I was unsure if the info he was giving me was true or not. I thought about doing a 2 week cycle of M1t to test it out, but read more about it and realized that this kid was probably a bull shi****. I made this thread AFTER PMing and doing research on it and wanted ot now what others thought.
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Anyways this thread is becoming useless so if anyone else wants to bring up how I wanted to take AAS in past threads then you are wasting your time. It has been said time and time again, and I a pretty sure I understood it the first time I read it, and even before I read it.. I am not 25 yet, but I am 21. The compounds i have thought about taking were Anavar and Hdrol, not together. In all honesty, these are both mild compunds where as people my age (and much younger) have taken much harsher things, for example, the kid I mentioned in the story above. I am able to get AAS if I need, which also makes the decision not to take it harder, but I have thought about taking them before coming on this forum, but decided to do more research. I am stubborn, but I am willing to learn. I am not asking about taking M1t because I already researched it and crossed it off the list. Of course I would love to start up a cycle, but that is just something I will have to deal with. If I make a thread on AAs again it will most likely be outlining what my cycle will consist of, not some backwards way of asking "is this ok" which is seems like many of you think I am doing.

[Mooseman33]

understand man, that we do things like this for your best interest.
most on here want you to cycle in the safest way.i no i do.

and at ur age it can not be considered safe. doing something for 2 weeks is not smart, why shut urself down to see what happens? makes no sense.

just become a sponge around here, soak up all the info u can. never be afreaid to ask questions, just have an open mind to the responses u get.
and always try to search for answers..

[americanoak]

understand man, that we do things like this for your best interest.
most on here want you to cycle in the safest way.i no i do.

and at ur age it can not be considered safe. doing something for 2 weeks is not smart, why shut urself down to see what happens? makes no sense.

just become a sponge around here, soak up all the info u can. never be afreaid to ask questions, just have an open mind to the responses u get.
and always try to search for answers..

I know everyone is trying to keep the younger guys from cycling to keep safe, but in all honesty from all the stuff I have read and info i have "soaked up" the cycles I have mentioned seemed to be pretty moderate with the risks. Also some guys have diff ways of telling us not to cycle as apposed to others.. what I mean is here n there I will go into a thread posted by someone new and will just get bashed on for asking questions. People that are new to this forum don't use the search button... maybe some do, but many more don't. I have learned to use it more and it has helped, but young guys, or even older, who have never taken aas or PH before want to be talked to directly about what they are thinking about doing, and are not interested in reading aout what others are asking. As for me, even while I was making threads on this forum about var and H drol, I was searching through google and other forums on the same subject, I suppose I could have done the same here, but didn't realize to do it untill people just started bashing on me for asking the simplest questions and in the time it took the to write out an entire paragraph or looing at my profle to see how many threads I started they could have just answered the original question or just said "you can search for this with the search button" or just not have even answered......

A 4 week H drol cycle is what I have been thinking aout for a while, but I know in the back of my mind I am not old enough yet, which is why I havent started it. 50/50/50/50 for four weeks from what I have asked about, read about, and heard about, seems to be very mild on the HPTA, and while it is harsh on the liver I know the nessecary supps to take before/during/after to help prevent my body from yelling at me if I did take it.

In all hoesty I do beleive that If i did the H Drol that I wouldn't see any negative effects, someone maybe even a year or two younger than me could run it and get away with it. I am saying this only based on what I said before ^^ (what i read and heard), but I have never personally ran it so I can not be sure.

As I have mentioned in other threads I know a bunch of people who have ran harsher cycles between ages 18-low 20's with minimal to no sides. All of these factors, along with the fact that what i want to take is readily available to me make it that much more tempting to take, but I am fighting to the urge.

[dec11]

its quite obvious you make up bs stories and pose them as questions to gather info and hope you'll hear what you want to, its just boring, the same crap after crap

[Jbert22]

mooseman, u say feel free to ask any questions yet you posted a comment on this thread bc of him asking a question???/ im lost? why even comment? i dont know it all but if somebody has a legit question i will answer it if i or somebody i know has been there. if you think he is too young then dont even post a comment. im not advertising the use of aas or prohormones to anybody, but i will help if i can. i cannot stand people who act an ass on a website. also americanoak, the search button is pretty badass, just use it first my friend. and im not recommending using to you just stating my opinion

[americanoak]

its quite obvious you make up bs stories and pose them as questions to gather info and hope you'll hear what you want to, its just boring, the same crap after crap

Declan, I would appreciate if you don't coment my threads any more. The story I have written is 100% true. I am not a lier. I am not on an AAS cycle and never have been. You disgust me. If you don't like my threads dont answer. Dont waste your time reading it and don't waste my time with negative, false, uncalled for comments.

[Mooseman33]

mooseman, u say feel free to ask any questions yet you posted a comment on this thread bc of him asking a question???/ im lost? why even comment? i dont know it all but if somebody has a legit question i will answer it if i or somebody i know has been there. if you think he is too young then dont even post a comment. im not advertising the use of aas or prohormones to anybody, but i will help if i can. i cannot stand people who act an ass on a website. also americanoak, the search button is pretty badass, just use it first my friend. and im not recommending using to you just stating my opinion

yes i said to ask questions, but dont start 41 threads to only hear what u want...there is a difference.
and i agree, u are lost.
u will give advice to anyone who has a question, regardless if they are ready.
i understand that is how people learn, but some kids will do it regardless and i want none of that, that is why AAS are looked at the way they are, people using them who have no business to do so.
we have to be more responsible with our advice.
i cannot stand people telling others how to use when they have no clue what they are doing, esp when we all know they will use when they are not ready/
there are other boards for them type of people....

anything else?

[americanoak]

yes i said to ask questions, but dont start 41 threads to only hear what u want...there is a difference.
and i agree, u are lost.
u will give advice to anyone who has a question, regardless if they are ready.
i understand that is how people learn, but some kids will do it regardless and i want none of that, that is why AAS are looked at the way they are, people using them who have no business to do so.
we have to be more responsible with our advice.
i cannot stand people telling others how to use when they have no clue what they are doing, esp when we all know they will use when they are not ready/
there are other boards for them type of people....

anything else?

Moosman, please read post 24, and if you wont read the whole thing, atleast read the first paragraph.

I made 41 threads, but the number of threads on the topic of ME taing aas i can count on one hand. The info you got was incorrect and to be honest quite insulting. He posted saying I made 41 threads in 2 months when it was actually 4 months. Yes I know 41 threads, however most of them werenot even part of me asking about taking AAS.

However, what is most dissapointing to me is I didn't even make this thread to decide wheather or not I would be taking M1t, as i said in an earlier post I messaged a Vet about the usage of M1t after hearnig what this kid told me and was just reasured that using M1t was a bad idea, after already knowing that M1t was an unfriendly compound.

I do not care if anyone thnks I made this story up to see if someone says its OK for me to take M1t, or any other aas, and if I was going to take aas I wouldn't take something as harsh as one as this after knowing what I know.

Thanks for anyone who gave me a decent answer, even though I dont thnk anyone answered the original question of my post. Your answers to me now are irrelivent because im pretty fed up with the negative remarks created by this post.

[Ashop]

I was out the other night when a 19yo kid comes up to me and notices I was a pretty decent size.. He asks if I was on anything or if I was interested in buying.

He tells me he has M1t, and that he has taken it on a few seperate occasions. He seemed like a decent size, but had on a sweat shirt, so it was hard to tell.

From what I've read about M1t it is pretty harsh and he said he started running it when he was 18. He did I guess two 4 week cycles and claimed to add on 15-20lbs with each cycle. Im not sure what his PCT is, but trying not to act like a smart ass I asked him "Oh is there anything you take after the cycle to get your test back up?" He didnt know the name of the supp that he took for PCt and he said you take this dose for a month and you keep all of your gains.. It seemed too good to be true to keep all the gains, and the fact that he didnt know the name of his PCT.

Is it possible that this kid's natty test would even be functioning right now? He has a good amount of facial hair so he obv had some test flowing through him.

M1T was the real deal and did work. Sides came with increased dosages. The kid is so young that even after not using a PCT he was probaly able to eventually recover. He got lucky,,,,this time.

[dec11]

Declan, I would appreciate if you don't coment my threads any more. The story I have written is 100% true. I am not a lier. I am not on an AAS cycle and never have been. You disgust me. If you don't like my threads dont answer. Dont waste your time reading it and don't waste my time with negative, false, uncalled for comments.

id appreciate it if you'd piss off with the dumb questions and parroted advice, i disgust you? i didnt ask for a kiss like

[americanoak]

id appreciate it if you'd piss off with the dumb questions and parroted advice, i disgust you? i didnt ask for a kiss like

Again, please don't post to me anymore.
I dont parrot, all the info i give is info i have learned.
Yes people like you disgust me, you are trying to start an argument and calling me out over the internet.. I hope that makes you feel very good inside, however if you dont like my posts you dont have to reply.

As of this point I will not longer be responding to you.

[dec11]

Again, please don't post to me anymore.
I dont parrot, all the info i give is info i have learned.
Yes people like you disgust me, you are trying to start an argument and calling me out over the internet.. I hope that makes you feel very good inside, however if you dont like my posts you dont have to reply.

As of this point I will not longer be responding to you.

hmm, which is parroting, its preferable that you are actually EXPERIENCED in what you are talking about mr disgusted

[americanoak]

hmm, which is parroting, its preferable that you are actually EXPERIENCED in what you are talking about mr disgusted

so then anyone ever says that they learned from someone els eis ocnsidered parroting, in which case you most likely do every single time you give out advice or say almost anything. Seriously, I dont og out giving people cycle advice and the only things I ever give someone a little info on is clen because ive ran it before or var, and not even that much info on it, but that is because I know quite a bit about var.

You are horrible at arguing, stop wasting my time and your own. Thanks

[MotoLifter]

i wouldnt buy snything from some kid who came up to me out of no where and offered. would you buy a rolex from a guy in a bar cause he had a nice watch on? and thats not even a good example cause your not putting a watch in your body, hopefully!

Im not going to get into the pissing match going on here but I personally wouldnt do it, too many negative possibilities to outweight one or two positives.

The opportunity cost of not doing it is minimal.


Moto

[americanoak]

i wouldnt buy snything from some kid who came up to me out of no where and offered. would you buy a rolex from a guy in a bar cause he had a nice watch on? and thats not even a good example cause your not putting a watch in your body, hopefully!

Im not going to get into the pissing match going on here but I personally wouldnt do it, too many negative possibilities to outweight one or two positives.

The opportunity cost of not doing it is minimal.


Moto

Good advice Moto, I was not planning on buying from the kid, thought about everything he said and seemed likea bunch of bull to me. Thanks for the info.