test e 250-300 weekly?

[tommyg787]

I am starting my first cycle and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with doing a 8-10 week cycle using only 250-300mg of test e per week? If so, would side efffects be lowered since the amount of test is lowered? would chances of gyno decrease? What woudl be proper pct for a cycle like this? I am wanting to take it slow at first to see how my body reacts. Thanks!

[DaBullet]

bro 250 to 300mgs of test E is way to low, the average that runs naturally in a male is a little over 200mgs and sometimes a bit more and you want to run what you would naturally?? Aint to smart bro to shut ur body down from it's natural test to put synthetic test in you need to run at least 500mgs to see good results and the sides vary on everyone. That's why it's advised to run test only to see how you react to it. And you need to run a solid pct no mattwr what you run. Good luck

[DaBullet]

oh my gosh what am I doing, what are your stats bro?!
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[tommyg787]

The average adult male naturally produces 2.5 to 11 milligrams of testosterone daily www.erowid.org › chemicals › ghb -

Every day, your body produces 4 to 10 MG of testosterone. And, depending on how much sex you have, your body secretes 4 to 10 MG a day http://www.herbestlover.com/how-to-i...sex-drive.html

I have read different levels on different sites but i have yet to come across anywhere that says your body produces near that much naturally. onesIt is interesting that you say that though i will definately do more research and take that into consideration. my main concern in gyno...i know that's prob everyones but thats what mine is for sure

[BiggerByTheDay]

bro 250 to 300mgs of test E is way to low, the average that runs naturally in a male is a little over 200mgs and sometimes a bit more and you want to run what you would naturally?? Aint to smart bro to shut ur body down from it's natural test to put synthetic test in you need to run at least 500mgs to see good results and the sides vary on everyone. That's why it's advised to run test only to see how you react to it. And you need to run a solid pct no mattwr what you run. Good luck

Although I am no expert by any means, your claim of 200mgs (or more) of naturally produced test per week is false. Typically speaking, the average male produces 6-8mgs per day thus 42-48mgs is the typically amount of testosterone produced by the average male each week. Obviously this can be different, either lower or higher, between each male specimen however 200mgs per week is wrong.

To the OP, typical regimens average about 12 weeks at 500mgs per week but your stats need to be posted so that the VETS can help you achieve your goals; either naturally or through the help of gear.

EDIT: and to add for informational purposes; my father had some of his best gains when he would run 350-400mgs per week. Even after his extensive cycles he preferred this dosage.

[Bloodsaw]

bro 250 to 300mgs of test E is way to low, the average that runs naturally in a male is a little over 200mgs and sometimes a bit more and you want to run what you would naturally?? Aint to smart bro to shut ur body down from it's natural test to put synthetic test in you need to run at least 500mgs to see good results and the sides vary on everyone. That's why it's advised to run test only to see how you react to it. And you need to run a solid pct no mattwr what you run. Good luck

TO OP, this guy has NO CLUE whats hes talking about, your body produces NOWHERE NEAR 200 mg a week, the average is around 20-80 mg a week, depending on the person. 250 - 300 mg of test a week is going to do something just dont expect much, i am currently in a real life situation watching someone run 250 a week and he has gained 8 lbs and getting close to week 5..

[tommyg787]

age 21
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[tommyg787]

blood, has he notcied any dramatic side effects off of that dose?

[Bloodsaw]

Go check your email for his progress pics and more info

[BiggerByTheDay]

blood, has he notcied any dramatic side effects off of that dose?

Although this is directed towards Blood, after researching and listening to my father, each individual reacts differently to test thus side effects will vary between each as well. I suggest you keep researching before taking the plunge bro. If you do not understand PCT's and AI's along with other important facts about gear then you should prolong IMO. Good luck no matter what brother.

[tommyg787]

Although this is directed towards Blood, after researching and listening to my father, each individual reacts differently to test thus side effects will vary between each as well. I suggest you keep researching before taking the plunge bro. If you do not understand PCT's and AI's along with other important facts about gear then you should prolong IMO. Good luck no matter what brother.

I understand PCT and AI's but i know of a few peopel around me who have taken 300 a week with no anti estrogen or PCT and was wondering if that was just an insane thing to do, or if it's common, the only people i have ever really heard of doing all of the PCT is on the internet. Actual peopel i know have taken without like i said before, made gains, and kept them for the most part with no erection problems, gyno symptoms.....just trying to understand how it can be done by this handful of peopel?

[BiggerByTheDay]

I understand PCT and AI's but i know of a few peopel around me who have taken 300 a week with no anti estrogen or PCT and was wondering if that was just an insane thing to do, or if it's common, the only people i have ever really heard of doing all of the PCT is on the internet. Actual peopel i know have taken without like i said before, made gains, and kept them for the most part with no erection problems, gyno symptoms.....just trying to understand how it can be done by this handful of peopel?

Understandable on your part for sure bro. Like I said, I am no expert and am far from what my natural physique will likely allow. Hopefully some VETS can further assist you with any questions that you may have as I am limited to research and my fathers cycle experience thus none on my on personal part. However, if you are nervous about gyno I would run an AI just to be safe. The banner at the top of this forum can help you out if you decide to do so.

[DaBullet]

are you guys kidding me some people produce more testosterone then most and a normal healthy male produces around 500-1000ng/dl of testosterone so if you are talking about in mgs it equates to more than what you guys are talking about, why don't you do a search on this forum to find out for yourselves. Now if you are talking about free testosterone then it may be closer to that but I think it's higher than what you guys are talking about but read up guys!

[DaBullet]

here you guys go....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=5134354

[Bloodsaw]

here you guys go....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?p=5134354

now WHERE in that thread does it say that a male produces over 80 mg a week? the fact is the average male produces 11 mg a day if your very lucky which was 77mg a week....

I cannot backup this study but i remember ready that 140mg of test E or C a week puts the average male, in the average Test range, of course of that 140 mg yours getting about 100 mg of it in the end give or take a little ...

[DaBullet]

what you guys are talking about is free testosterone I was talking about how much in total your body makes which is more then what you have suggested. Originally you said 20 to 80 and now you say that 140 mgs of test e gets you back to nromal which is 100mgs... I could be wrong but isn't 140 mgs of tes E or test C still 140 mgs of test???

[BiggerByTheDay]

are you guys kidding me some people produce more testosterone then most and a normal healthy male produces around 500-1000ng/dl of testosterone so if you are talking about in mgs it equates to more than what you guys are talking about, why don't you do a search on this forum to find out for yourselves. Now if you are talking about free testosterone then it may be closer to that but I think it's higher than what you guys are talking about but read up guys!

Testicular testosterone production averages approximately 7 mg per day whereas this rate is directly affected by the circulation of the luteinizing hormone, the number of testicular LH receptors, and the availability of the synthesis substrate. The typical male testosterone level is between 250ng/dl to 850 ng/dl. Testosterone is normally measured in nanograms per deciliter (ng/dL.) 1 milligram = 1,000,000 nanograms whereas 1 liter = 10 deciliter. There are 5 liters of blood in the average adult male body. This means that the average male "total testosterone" output into the bloodstream is: 7,000,000ng / 50 dL = 140,000 ng / dL total testerone per day. Therefore, using an often accepted 800ng/dL "reference" measurement for "optimal" testosterone, it could be proven that the assay is revealing 1/175th of the total daily testosterone output. Further, this means that in the theoretical model of the optimal male described above, the total point-in-time reading of 800mg/dL of testosterone is completely metabolized by the body 175 times per day.

800ng/dL in a 5L volume of blood is equivalent to:

800 ng / 1 dL = 40,000 ng / 50 dL = .04 mg / 5L = 0.04mg total testosterone in the bloodstream.

0.04mg * 175 cycles = 7mg total testosterone produced by the testicles per day.


Various references are utilized in this and can be posted as well if you want. Im just tired of typing.

[FireGuy]

^^ Awesome post!!

[Bloodsaw]

what you guys are talking about is free testosterone I was talking about how much in total your body makes which is more then what you have suggested. Originally you said 20 to 80 and now you say that 140 mgs of test e gets you back to nromal which is 100mgs... I could be wrong but isn't 140 mgs of tes E or test C still 140 mgs of test???

Yea, you are wrong... out of the 140 MG your body would only use 100 mg or so,, just like out of 250 mg you use somewhere in the range of 160-170 mg of it...


and yes i did say 20 - 80... 20 being very low, and 80 being VERY high, the STUDY I READ ABOU said that 140 would bring u to average, which would be about 100 mg, give or take which isnt too far off from what the average male produces, on the high end yes though..

i didnt say the study was even true, i just told u what i read lol

[DaBullet]

of course cause your free testosterone is alot less then your total testosterone level. I aint trying to get into the exact science just don't like the fact that he said I had no idea of what I was saying but let a true vet put his advice on here all I know is that 250 - 300 mgs of test a week is somewhat low and if you have normal test levels you won't see much of a difference just my opinion.

[DaBullet]

I hear you bloodsaw. But what I was referring from the beginning was total testosterone not free testosterone which of course is alot less.

[Bloodsaw]

at 250- 300 most anybody that has never taken anything before will grow maybe not like a weed lol, but they will grown, as simple as that, and even people who have been on test for years may grow on that, it just depends on the person...

bottom line is if you inject yourself with 250mg of test in one week, you will be putting more test into your body than you would naturally produce. Thus you should grow

[forte]

I am starting my first cycle and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with doing a 8-10 week cycle using only 250-300mg of test e per week? If so, would side efffects be lowered since the amount of test is lowered? would chances of gyno decrease? What woudl be proper pct for a cycle like this? I am wanting to take it slow at first to see how my body reacts. Thanks!

take it slow is probably the best idea. see how it goes. personally i start my first cycle with 250 mg/week and i was not to happy. week 4 i went up to 500 mg and i notice some nice results. for gyno i always have nolva on hand just in case. in my opinion a good pct is with nolva and clomid together, always worked for me. some use hcg too, i personally don't like it.