Would like to try steroids for first time (football)

[Hybrid_OLB]

Hello,

i am looking to try steroids, i am a junior college football player. i am, 6'2" and 225 pounds.

I broke my collarbone back in october and it has jsut recently healed, so i have been hitting thegym ahrd again. but i have gained some fat since my injury, i play outside linebacker so i would like to have more muscle and less fat, so i can keep my speed up with my size and strength.

i have training camp starting july 1.
i have been studying steroids for a few months now, and i would like to stay away from injections, and stick with oral only. due to living at home ( i am not afraid of needles, i have many tattoos)

so does anyone have any suggestions? for oral steroids, PCT, an outside linebacker looking to gain muscle and cut my fat. ????

i have a 4 day weight routine, with 3- days a week are two-adays with speed training. then 2 days are interval running, so a total of 6 days a week of training,

my diet is great right now. i am just short on time fortraiing camp.

please any suggestions!?!?!?

[Phate]

oral only? no

age
bf%
pics?

[Hybrid_OLB]

i was thinking of Anavar,Noveldex, Adex, Clomid.

i am 22, 14 percent body fat. pics none.. its not about what i look like its about making gains in weight room, getting faster which all results in losing fat and gaining muscle.

[Phate]

i was thinking of Anavar,Noveldex, Adex, Clomid.

i am 22, 14 percent body fat. pics none.. its not about what i look like its about making gains in weight room, getting faster which all results in losing fat and gaining muscle.

i asked for pics because most people can't accurately estimate their bodyfat, unless you've had 9 point caliper tests from someone with experience most people are +-5% or more

btw, that oral cycle is pointless if you are thinking of running them all at once

[Hybrid_OLB]

yeah i had my test done by my trainer. so its very accurate.

so i do have some chunk on me, but what would be best to take orally? i know injection is the best, but at this time in my life, i cannot do that. so i will start with trying oral.

[Tyler694]

... i would like to stay away from injections, and stick with oral only. due to living at home ( i am not afraid of needles, i have many tattoos) ...

Tattoo needles are nothing like "regular" needles. I am covered in tattoos, but "regular" needle freak me out.. If you don't want to pin, for any reason at all, I wouldn't recommend getting on AAS. I can speak from personal experience. I didn't listen to well educated people about NOT doing oral only cycles or doing orals as LEAST as possible, and my first 2 cycles were oral only. Not only did I do tons of liver and lipid damage, but I feel like I wasted money. (The gains were decent, but ask anyone, pinning is 10x better..) I finally sucked it up and started pinning. Best decision I've ever made in my "AAS career"..

oral only? no ... ... btw, that oral cycle is pointless if you are thinking of running them all at once

See^

[D_iamond]

you are not going to get what you want from orals man nothing you gain will last and your sex drive is going to plumit man dont do it its not worth it you really need an injectable testosterone to keep you healthy on orals thats the only way the pros do it however you may get good gains from useing arimidex or aromasin or nolvedex alone they will give you great boosts in strenth and size by significantly increasing your test production this is your best performance increasing option imo good luck bro

[Hard.On]

ur a bit young.
Your stats are good though.

Also That cycle you have in mind wont get you what you want and its overkill with nolva/clomid/adex

[hardwork08]

when you guys speak of orals, you mean stuff like d-bol and OT, and not PH/DS like m-drol, dzine, and weaker compounds like epi/halo, right? sorry for mini hijack.

[redz]

and weaker compounds like epi/halo,

Since when is halo a weak compound?

[Hard.On]

Since when is halo a weak compound?

HAHA,
honestly

[hardwork08]

Since when is halo a weak compound?

h-drol/halovar isn't weaker than superdrol? by weaker I mean more managable sides. I know shutdown is the same. either way, you guys are speaking of d-bol/OT and the likes, right?

[Hybrid_OLB]

so do you guys have any suggestions that could help me make some gains fast? by july 1. without injections. supplements? steroids? etc.

[hardwork08]

so do you guys have any suggestions that could help me make some gains fast? by july 1. without injections. supplements? steroids? etc.

whats the likelyhood of your JUCO drug testing early in the season? A few kids at my school got suspended for too high of caffeine levels lol. NCAA doesn't mess around...

[Tyler694]

Diet, cardio, and exercise are the basis.

However, just let it be known. You won't make and "gains fast" without injecting.. Patience and hardwork is the key.

[Hybrid_OLB]

we have no testing, i am from canada. no testing is done.

and no fast gains will be done unless i inject??

[vanduhl]

yeah man, you gotta inject with a good base like a test enth/prop/cyp

[Hybrid_OLB]

well this isnt good, i do not want to inject. i was looking for something oral.

[vanduhl]

why are you so opposed to injections?

[hardwork08]

why are you so opposed to injections?

I"m thinking either no source or the stigma attached to it. Probably the former.

[Hybrid_OLB]

i live at home still, and its very easy to find things in my home, and i dont want to risk being kicked out, this is my last year of ball, and i can enter the CFL draft, so i cant screw up. since i dont plan on being on the gear for long, i wanted something fast.

also i dont have time to inject, since i am at school 8 hours a day, work, practice every day andweight room.

[Tyler694]

You don't have time to inject?

Your liver isn't very happy with you right now!

Also, this is the way I look at using AAS (..or doing anything illegal). If you aren't willing to face the consequences, should they arise, then don't do it! Meaning, if you are scared to get kicked out and don't want to pin, skip the oral AAS altogether and do it the "natural" way..

[Hard.On]

After reading your posts.
I honestly dont think that Gear is going to be the answer for you.
They are not a quick fix like you are thinking.

[vanduhl]

I"m thinking either no source or the stigma attached to it. Probably the former.

i ould have to agree with you

[Hybrid_OLB]

maybe its not, my bench right now is 225 x 25 times, i need to get back to 35 times which was in september last year,

so what you guys are saying is that oral steroids dont do anything?

and yeah i dont have time to inject, from what i have been reading ,says not t orush, do it slow, dont hit a vein etc. i have no time on my hands to spare, im going from school, straight to work straight to football. i really have no time. which is why oral is what i want to do.

[Hybrid_OLB]

also another reason for not injecting, is i dont know a single soul who has taken roids, i have no one to show me how to inject properly and all that jazz, i have watched videos and read, but still i am not comfortable with that, which is why i want to try oral.

[Hybrid_OLB]

also, i have talked to some guys at the local Y, which i dont ever go to... he was telling me he took some pill that is similar to a steroid... cannot remember what he called it, but he said it worked, which is why this got into my head.

[Phate]

also, i have talked to some guys at the local Y, which i dont ever go to... he was telling me he took some pill that is similar to a steroid... cannot remember what he called it, but he said it worked, which is why this got into my head.

he probably took a prohormone, does spawn, epistane, superdrol, h-drol, or M1T sound familiar?

you will gain weight while on those but it's due to water retention and will disappear as soon as you are off the cycle, not to mention that prohormones convert into steroids but they are much more toxic to your liver(hepatotoxic) than oral steroids

[Hybrid_OLB]

he probably took a prohormone, does spawn, epistane, superdrol, h-drol, or M1T sound familiar?

you will gain weight while on those but it's due to water retention and will disappear as soon as you are off the cycle, not to mention that prohormones convert into steroids but they are much more toxic to your liver(hepatotoxic) than oral steroids

superdrol sounds like that.

big pill?

but anyways, so really there is no oral steroid/supplement i could take to make more gains? not even Anavar?

[glover]

we have no testing, i am from canada. no testing is done.

and no fast gains will be done unless i inject??

The speed of the gains do not depend on injecting or not injecting. I think the longevity of the gains dependent on this however.

Try the anavar you talked about 60mg per day for 6 weeks followed by three weeks of nolvadex. After nothing for nine weeks do it again. This may help you make the cut.

[Hybrid_OLB]

The speed of the gains do not depend on injecting or not injecting. I think the longevity of the gains dependent on this however.

Try the anavar you talked about 60mg per day for 6 weeks followed by three weeks of nolvadex. After nothing for nine weeks do it again. This may help you make the cut.

do you know if taking aanavar and then noveldex is effective? seems like people on this forum think it wont do anything at all.



i would take milk thistle with it as well. and DHEA

[glover]

I really think you should inject if nothing else then some Hcg during you anavar to keep your natural test up.

I have used Nolva for pct after cycles with Var/NPP/Prop and it has worked for me. It may or may not work for you. You can only do it and see.

Save your money on the DHEA buy protien powder instead.

[Hybrid_OLB]

so Anavar with noveldex? and i should be good, with hcg. that will work?

or Winstrol with noveldex?

[D_iamond]

omg look ten people say dont do it but as soon as one guy says its ok its all he needed and boom hes poppin pills... hahah

[Hybrid_OLB]

i have been reading every where, its mixed reviews.

i honestly thought there would be something out there that would give me strength gains without injecting...

[glover]

No, nolva after anavar.

Do you know what Hcg is?

No winstrol, who said that. Your flip flopping back and forth make up your mind with one thing. I think you need some test your acting like a girl!

[Tyler694]

Yeah, you don't sound prepared to start dipping into AAS..

Don't make the mistake that I (and every other young idiot) made.. Stay away from it for now..

[Hybrid_OLB]

yeah i know. anavar then noveldex.

[Mooseman33]

if u have a chance, and i mean i real chance to become a pro and ur 22, i say do it only with injections.

how are u going to use HCG when it must be injected?
if u dont get tested, run some test, inject twice a week, it takes less than 2 min to inject.

[AlphaMaleDawg]

you could do anavar only