Can I tell if my friend is on AAS?

[Vullfromsc]

Alright so.. I'm a sophomore in college and I have a friend who goes to the gym around the same time that I do every day.

He is a senior (4th year in college) and pretty massive. He has been working out since freshman year (3.5 years of working out).
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 190 lbs (low body fat.. still has 6 abs)
Arms: 19 Inches
Waist: 32 Inches

Some lifting stats (I spot him occasionally):
Barbell Bench: 295 lbs for 9
Shoulder Press (Arnold style with dumbbells): 95lb each hand for 8
Leg Press: 1300 lbs for 12

About two months ago he started getting bad acne. 3 weeks ago his really bad acne went away and he started to get stronger. His bench wasn't even at 275 for 10 then, now its at 295 for 11 IN ONLY 3 WEEKS WTF.

I definitely think he was on a PCT when his acne came.

Is this even possible naturally? 20lbs on his bench in 3 weeks after he has been plateaued for almost 1 year.

Is he on AAS or is this possible naturally?

Oh and to complicate things, he has horrible genetics (he is ASIAN, usually not typically big) and his diet is terrible, eats cheese burgers all the time.

[calgarian]

and u want to know this cause......?

[Vullfromsc]

and u want to know this cause......?

he claims that he is "natural" (i hate when anyone who lifts describes themselves as that word, its like they feel special or something)

[Tyler694]

Why not just ask him..?

If he is a good, true friend then he won't mind being honest with you.

If he doesn't want to tell you, doesn't trust you, or for any reason at all doesn't want you to know, why so worried about it?

[zaneisgreat]

*edit* nevermind. Misread the thread.

[cherrydrpepper]

Maybe you should watch bloodsport if you dont think asians can be big
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ArvbhLMK3w

[Vullfromsc]

Maybe you should watch bloodsport if you dont think asians can be big
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ArvbhLMK3w

those asians are not what i would call big

[Black]

those asians are not what i would call big

He's talking about Bolo Yeung (aka Chong Li). [BTW, love the Bloodsport reference]. He was into bodybuilding and martial arts. His son is a competitive bodybuilder (can't remember his first name).

Now to the topic. I'm not going to ask why you care so much. People use anabolics all the time. Are you jealous and want to know so you can make his personal use public?

I got an idea. Knock him out with a guitar a la Honky Tonk Man style and use a syringe and steal some of his blood (or try to steal his piss, whichever is easier). Then, go find a lab who will test the piss or blood for you. You'll probably have to pay a couple hundred dollars, so just be prepared for that. Then, when you find out he is on juice, you can get on your facebook and annouce it to all his friends.

[Vullfromsc]

He's talking about Bolo Yeung (aka Chong Li). [BTW, love the Bloodsport reference]. He was into bodybuilding and martial arts. His son is a competitive bodybuilder (can't remember his first name).

Now to the topic. I'm not going to ask why you care so much. People use anabolics all the time. Are you jealous and want to know so you can make his personal use public?

I got an idea. Knock him out with a guitar a la Honky Tonk Man style and use a syringe and steal some of his blood (or try to steal his piss, whichever is easier). Then, go find a lab who will test the piss or blood for you. You'll probably have to pay a couple hundred dollars, so just be prepared for that. Then, when you find out he is on juice, you can get on your facebook and annouce it to all his friends.

sticking up for your brother, cute

[Black]

sticking up for your brother, cute

That makes no sense. I'm not sticking up for anyone. ???

Either way, there's no way for you to prove that he's using anabolics (no legal way atleast). If you had any common sense, you would've known that before you posted anything. My guess is you did. So what is the real reason you posted this? Did you come on here to whine because someone benches more than you? Get over it and do your curls.

[durak]

I got an idea. Knock him out with a guitar a la Honky Tonk Man style and use a syringe and steal some of his blood (or try to steal his piss, whichever is easier). Then, go find a lab who will test the piss or blood for you. You'll probably have to pay a couple hundred dollars, so just be prepared for that. Then, when you find out he is on juice, you can get on your facebook and annouce it to all his friends.

Geez... A little hyped up there...

[jordann]

It's obviously a personal choice and it really shouldn't concern you so much. So if you find out he's juicing, will you now be able to sleep at night? Suppose he is, why would that change anything? If he wanted you to know, he would tell you. And if he didn't, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

[Vullfromsc]

It's obviously a personal choice and it really shouldn't concern you so much. So if you find out he's juicing, will you now be able to sleep at night? Suppose he is, why would that change anything? If he wanted you to know, he would tell you. And if he didn't, he wouldn't. Simple as that.

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

[shadey33]

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

Easy mate run a cycle yourself when your bench goes up and he's asking question bring out the 'im all natural'

[RuhlFreak55]

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

and what....knowing he uses anabolics is going to make you less of a ***** and him less strong somehow?? who gives a shit, you're at the gym, worry about your own ****ing workout

[Vullfromsc]

and what....knowing he uses anabolics is going to make you less of a ***** and him less strong somehow?? who gives a shit, you're at the gym, worry about your own ****ing workout

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

[taiboxa]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

So when you start using AAS.. your going to announce it to the world? lol.. yeah. your a sharp one

[RuhlFreak55]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

you HAVE to do that to keep yourself safe dude

[palevein]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

In all seriousness, I know alot of guys who are on cycle or have done cycles in the past that have denied it. Only after I started cycling did the topic become open and they admitted using it past/present.

Everybody is entitled to keep their own secrets imo, especially in the gym where steriods are seen by many beginner/novice lifters as "cheating". It's nothing to get jealous about, if you know he is and he's not admitting it that should be all the more consolation in your corner than anything

[jg2]

thanks for telling it how it is.

just irritates me because i know hes on and he claims that he isnt

WOW.... thats the best i have ever seen ANYONE take the honest truth.... man crush or not he can take it on the chops for sweating someone else for juicing or not..... who gives a fuk.. juice or dont.. lie or dont... WHO GIVES A FUK

mad props on taking the criticism like a man tho...

[Black]

you make no sense. why did you post in this thread? to start a fight with someone you dont know? my guess is you did.

i never said i wanted to prove that he was on aas, maybe you should read the original post

oh and i just did back and bis today, no need to curl for another week...... and who ever said he benched more than me???

you make ridiculous assumptions and look very stupid for doing so

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

Hey buddy, I went back and re-read your posts. Here's were you said you wanted to "prove him wrong" about denying his aas use.


So if he is not benching more than you, then why do you care if he is bragging? Your ego is stupid. Go to Wal-Mart and see if you can get another one on sale.

I posted in this thread in hopes of making you see just how idiotic and worthless your original post is. However, that looks like it's not going to happen. I hope you enjoy the rest of college obsessing about one other meaningless person in this world.

Hey BTW, what is his diet and cardio routine? What kind of music does he listen to? What is his favorite color? What are his political views? Does he like horror movies? I didn't know if you already have these answers in your notes.

[no1tou]

want to know why i care?

1. his constant bragging about his bench press every day pisses me off
2. i want to prove him wrong, i have a huge ego
3. i shouldn't have used the word friend, he's more of an acquaintance

This will make you a unhappy person the rest of your life. I used to be like you then I found being happy for people instead of hating led to a happier life.

I actually let my pride take me out of a possible professional drag racing career. I would lose and get so mad I wanted to kill them. No one liked being around me. It's healthy to be competitive but don't let it take the fun outta life. Just do what you enjoy period.

Besides if it bothers you as much as it did me just jump on cycle.

Dr. Phil signing out.

[Vullfromsc]

This will make you a unhappy person the rest of your life. I used to be like you then I found being happy for people instead of hating led to a happier life.

I actually let my pride take me out of a possible professional drag racing career. I would lose and get so mad I wanted to kill them. No one liked being around me. It's healthy to be competitive but don't let it take the fun outta life. Just do what you enjoy period.

Besides if it bothers you as much as it did me just jump on cycle.

Dr. Phil signing out.

haha thanks man, think im gunna jump on cycle.. in 4 or 5 years when im 25ish lol

[juiceda26]

imo he is on aas.

[gymmonster]

[QUOTE=Vullfromsc;5150593]Alright so.. I'm a sophomore in college and I have a friend who goes to the gym around the same time that I do every day.

He is a senior (4th year in college) and pretty massive. He has been working out since freshman year (3.5 years of working out).
Height: 5'6"
Weight: 190 lbs (low body fat.. still has 6 abs)
Arms: 19 Inches
Waist: 32 Inches

Some lifting stats (I spot him occasionally):
Barbell Bench: 295 lbs for 9
Shoulder Press (Arnold style with dumbbells): 95lb each hand for 8
Leg Press: 1300 lbs for 12


he is now not a friend more an acquaintance, and you have all this info on the guy thats weird, juicing or not you shouldnt care at all what he lifts.
worry about yourself

[Kiki]

You should only be concerned about your own lifts.

If your supposed "friend" is juicing, and won't tell you, then he's not really a friend (assuming he's not worried about you being able to keep a secret).

[hkntbro]

he could be on steroids like many others and just want to keep it in secret.
1 guy that worksout in my gym put 40pounds lean mass in 3 months. and when i ask him did u took something anabolic he say "no im natural thanks for asking".
next day i see him in the local pharma buying needles

[durak]

Lol... Sorry D, should have read the whole thread first. Dude is a tool.

[Friend]

Sounds like you have a man crush.

[songdog]

Who cares what your friend does.Be glad for him.You arent his keeper.

[Bonaparte]

Check his testicles for atrophy

[Nobuddy]

Check his testicles for atrophy

OMFG, that is the best post in this whole thread!

OP - i can understand your frustration, it kinda irks me when i hear people say they're natural. however, you must understand that AAS is widely misunderstood. so, anybody on them isn't really quick to open up that can of worms THEN have to sit there, for 30 minutes, trying to dispel a bunch of myths. check it - no matter how good your diet and training is, the second you say your on gear, EVERYONE (who has never used AAS) assumes that is the reason for your gains. they think "yea, if i was doing that i'd be making as much progress" they suddenly have an excuse why they are not as successful. honestly, talking to the "non's" isn't worth it for someone who understand AAS's role in BB. so... we generally don't.

that said, the guy sounds like he annoys you ALOT. maybe you should stay away from him and mind yer own.

[Bossman]

This is a good friend of mine. He used to give my 16 yr old son powerlifting lessons. He's asian, natural and competes in all natural powerlifting organizations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=damgBsKPqw8

Are you hating because he's working harder and eating better?

Here's his bench

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyuIc...eature=related

[biggerguns]

Yes he's on AAS. There i said it.

[johnCash]

ya sounds like aas to me. and ya chong li from bloodsport was definately on juice he was too big and puffy especially in the pecs and shoulders.
if you care that much if your buddy is on aas or not y dont you rip down his pants and check if he has any needle marks lol.

[johnCash]

if you see any asian over 200 lbs and muscle you should automatically assume he is on aas because he is. u dont get big from eating noodles and rice all day watching kung fu movies

[Kiki]

if you see any asian over 200 lbs and muscle you should automatically assume he is on aas because he is. u dont get big from eating noodles and rice all day watching kung fu movies

that's just racist

[johnCash]

that's just racist

are you serious??? its called genetics buddy
if you think im wrong then you should do more research

[durak]

that's just racist

Ever hear of Korean rock oldiers??? Some Koreans genetically are tall and naturally muscular.

[ShadowOfTheColossal]

if you see any asian over 200 lbs and muscle you should automatically assume he is on aas because he is. u dont get big from eating noodles and rice all day watching kung fu movies

lol what about the eating competitor who got beefed up over a year eating Asian food