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    Army Ranger Needs Your Help on a Cycle Before Shippingout

    Whats up everyone!

    I need your assistance.

    I have a buddy of mine that is leaving for Afghanistan (US Army Res.) in 6 months. He is 29 years old, and has done about 4 cycles in the past. He wants to run a cycle before he leaves, as he wants to substantially increase his Cardio Endurance, and also wants to increase some lean muscle mass (No they don't test for Juice in Army- he is a Army Ranger so any leg up he can get will help his survival). What do you all think a good stack would be for him. He wants to keep it down to only 3 or 4 compounds. Any input would be great.

    His Stats:
    Male
    Age- 29
    Cycle History- 2 bulks/2 cuts
    Weight training/physical training- Advanced
    Body fat- 13.8% (Wants to be about 10%)
    Weight- 195lbs
    Heights- 6'1

    I was thinking that a good cycle for him would be:
    Test Prop- 75mg (Every 3rd Day)
    EQ- 200mg a week
    Anavar- 50mg daily
    Deca- 50mg a week to lubricate the joints

    What do you think? Is there a stack that would be better him?

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    good thing you, sorry, ur friend didnt run this cycle.

    i dont like it at all.

    he should not cycle, he should focus on circuit training/ cardio for his endurance. the last thing you, oh sorry, "ur friend" needs is anytype of hormonal or chemical issues while he is in that place. steroids will not make him faster or help his survival.

    tell him to run,run, and run some more...

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    600mg EQ and a test base (maybe 200mg) would be the simplest, safest route (other than not cycling at all). This will help strength, endurance, and recovery without adding too much bulk to slow him down.
    Orals should be avoided for the most part because of the debilitating pumps and electrolyte imbalances they often cause.

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    Mooseman...this is not for me...if it was i would say, my cycle, like i did 2 days ago...my cycle is much larger and longer...but nothing makes me laugh more than when someone talks shit and says they don't like the cycle, and then does not put down ANYTHING as to why it is a bad cycle and to whats better.....he is not cycling in Afgan if you read my post, he has 6months as a civilian (Reserve), and wants to prep up before he ships out. He has 6.5 months...that's more than enough time to run a small cycle to give him a leg up. He is Circuit training 6 days a week, and has great cardio. His problem is he is dropping to much weight to quickly because of the amount of cardio he is doing...hence why he wants to cycle. And in this case, your wrong, they will help his survival Dramatically. This is his 4th tour, and his biggest problem in Afgan was that when he was on a 15k leg patrol @ 8k feet, and got into a firefight, his strength was not there to help him push through it, and to ensure he could keep a fast pace. He cycled before his last deployment and it made a huge difference.

    Bonaparte, thanks for the input bro.
    So what about this cycle.

    Test Prop- 300mg Weekly (Split does- his product is 150mg per cc)
    EQ- 600mg weekly
    B12- 50units cut with Prop
    AI (Arimidex)- .5mg Daily

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    no offence it was a terrible cycle. 75mg e3d is way too low a test dosage, 200mg of eq will do fuk all and 50mg of deca is pointless, women take more than that lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom-Fighter View Post
    but nothing makes me laugh more than when someone talks shit and says they don't like the cycle, and then does not put down ANYTHING as to why it is a bad cycle and to whats better....
    YESS! Moose cmon you know better

    I have nothing to give as far as advice goes for the cycle but I just wanted to give you a pat on the back for that. Nicely done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom-Fighter View Post

    Bonaparte, thanks for the input bro.
    So what about this cycle.

    Test Prop- 300mg Weekly (Split does- his product is 150mg per cc)
    EQ- 600mg weekly
    B12- 50units cut with Prop
    AI (Arimidex)- .5mg Daily
    Prop should be pinned at least EOD. Tell him to dilute it down to 75mg/ml using sterile oil and pin that EOD, giving him 262.5mg/week. However, if he is looking to do more than just gain an edge and he's trying to increase mass, he'll want to double that dose.
    Also, you can't cut prop with B12, since B12 is water-based. I would go with 12.5mg aromasin ED or EOD over Adex. Adex can cause joint pain and other sides that Aromasin won't cause.

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    First let me say I think there is a better answer than mine out there but wanted to give some input. What I would really do is figure out what guys in the NFL and other sports are doing and have him copy whatever is popular with them. He needs explosive power.

    Since he doesn't ship out for 6 months maybe keep it simple
    Test E 500 mg / wk for 12 wks
    Deca 250 mg / wk for 10 wks
    Dbol 30 mg / day for at least 4 wks

    PCT
    Clomid @ 100/75/50/50/25mg
    Nolvadex @ 40/40/20/20/20mg
    Aromasin @ 20/20/20/20/20mg
    *numbers are split showing daily value and wk. i.e. clomid 100 a day every day the first wk, plus 40 mg nolva a day the first wk, plus 20 mg aromasin a day the first wk.. 2nd wk 75, 40 and 20 a day and so on.

    The truth is he needs to pick up a workout that an NFL player or pro MMA fighter would do. Actually both if he can get his hands on such a workout. This is no shit. If he needs to crawl into a ditch, a cave, a hut, under a truck, scale a wall, whatever, its not really gonna matter how much he benched last week.

    Here is an MMA workout
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD8libZj3vM

    Here is an example of a leg workout that would probably benefit him to do once in a while:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig0yf...rom=PL&index=3

    Tim Tebow at the combine doing the 40 yard dash, a 3 cone drill, forward jump from standing position, and veritical jump (there are drills that help improve these not including just the actual exercise)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP7Dz1OO618

    Core exercises to help with distance running:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBYpe...eature=related

    Strength training for athletes that run: (tell him to be careful with these they look hard on the knees if not done right or done with too much weight)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGjBh...eature=related

    Also i think he should throw in B12 injections if he is manly enough to take em

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    2jz- I completely agree with you about the Deca....the reason for the 50mg dose is just to slightly increase Protein synthesis, and help out the joints a bit....without completely shutting down Nat-Test production...but your probably right that it is a little low....he is by no means trying to bulk, at all...he is just trying to give him a push for the next few months during training so that he can Deploy with a leg-up...and obviously, 600mg of Deca will do the opposite of help him.

    Bonaparte- Thanks again for the good feed back. Good call on diluting! And he is not looking for mass, just a little edge is all....which is why he kept the dosage so low on everything, as he only wants a boost, not a bulk. Also on your comment about B12, when i said cut i did not mean "cut" as you are right, no buano with the Oil/Water base mix...but what i was referring to is that i know people in the past that have used B12 injections to help eliminate any injection site irritation, as i would imagine any irritation would hinder his ability to train.

    cherrydrpepper- Great advice bro! your completely right about being explosive! That was his biggest problem, is staying explosive in High Altitude.....this is also one of the reasons why his dosage on all compounds is sooo low is to ensure he keeps is size/weight down on cycle....the more weight he puts on, the more weight he is going to have to carry around in Afgan. Anyways, those likes are great, so i appreciate it.

    Thanks for the advice on switching him over to a different AI. I will have him switch over.

    Bonaparte- which dosage schedule do you think would work better for him? (ED or EOD?) Also, it would be strictly for water retention and Estrogen sides, but not to protect against Gyno as he had his Mammary Glands removed when he was a kid due to an injury.

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    [QUOTE=Freedom-Fighter;5163153]Whats up everyone!

    I need your assistance.

    I have a buddy of mine that is leaving for Afghanistan (US Army Res.) in 6 months. He is 29 years old, and has done about 4 cycles in the past. He wants to run a cycle before he leaves, as he wants to substantially increase his Cardio Endurance, and also wants to increase some lean muscle mass (No they don't test for Juice in Army- he is a Army Ranger so any leg up he can get will help his survival). What do you all think a good stack would be for him. He wants to keep it down to only 3 or 4 compounds. Any input would be great.
    His Stats:
    Male
    Age- 29
    Cycle History- 2 bulks/2 cuts
    Weight training/physical training- Advanced
    Body fat- 13.8% (Wants to be about 10%)
    Weight- 195lbs
    Heights- 6'1

    I was thinking that a good cycle for him would be:
    Test Prop- 75mg (Every 3rd Day)
    EQ- 200mg a week
    Anavar- 50mg daily
    Deca- 50mg a week to lubricate the joints

    What do you think? Is there a stack that would be better him?[/QUOTE]


    i told u what i thought, i didnt like that cycle, and if he ran 4 cycles already he should no that is just a pure shit cycle.
    i also answered u about another cycle, i said he shouldnt cycle...

    i answered both ur questions and yet u still make a statement that i just said i dint like ur cycle, how it made u laugh....

    well tard, i answered ur questions. next time ask better questions

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    I don't like the cycle at all. The dosages of every compound are far too low.
    1) EQ @ 200 mg a week is a waste of time and money.
    2) Test prop every third day is not optimal for blood levels.
    3) Deca @ 50mg a week will probably do nothing what so ever for the joints, but it will shut your friend down HARD, with deca it doesn't matter if it's 1 cc, or 10cc's over the course of 5 weeks, it will still shut him down, read the steroid profile pages and you'll see.

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    What Kiki said is true: any amount of Deca will completely shut you down after a few doses (a single 200mg shot will shut down the HPTA for several months, so 50mg for 4 weeks would likely have the same effect).

    If he just wants to put on mass, stick with a good dose of test. If he is looking for mainly for endurance, EQ with a bit of test. For explosive strength with minimal weight gain: Anavar with a bit of test.

    And as far as pinning frequency: the more often, the better. If he doesn't mind pinning every day, do that. If not, do it EOD with prop.

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