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Hey I was looking into Anavar, Tbol and Winny as an oral only cycle.. I am 25, 5'9" 195 about 12% BF and not looking to gain a lot of mass. 10 lbs or so would be perfect and would like to get cut up for summer with a good str gain.I also want to do something that will allow me to keep a lot of gains.
I have Creatine,N.O. Explode, Protein , Glutamine, Glucosamine,and Fish oil to go along with what i take. so any help would be great
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Why do you want to use oral only?
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Well i live with others and think Oral would be the best to keep on the low.
Last edited by C.Rock; 05-14-2010 at 09:34 AM.
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So you are saying you are worried about crossing the border? I`m definitely missing something here.
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Last edited by C.Rock; 05-14-2010 at 09:35 AM.
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Oh ok, I miss understood. I`m not a fan of oral only but anavar or tbol are the ones that are apparently not too bad to take alone. Though personally I found tbol too weak to even bother with at 60mg ed. Don`t forget about pct.
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How come your not a fan? because its hard on the liver or? and I was thinking Anavar too. so how many mg ED or EoD. and how long should I do a cycle. I have read Oral only cycles shouldnt go longer thn 6 weeks but have heard a lot of ppl have done high mg for more weeks with no trouble. I am a first time user so what do u think i should do for pct? and when should i start it around the cycle
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Injections are very easy and painless when done properly and the gains are better too. The liver toxic thing plays into it but it's not like I don`t ever run orals I am currently on Test/Tren/EQ/Dbol but I am also not sugesting a cycle like that for someone starting out like you are. A test E or Test C cycle would yield the best results and you should run it for about 10 weeks. The needle phobia is natural and is easily over come after you get a few injections under your belt and it is something that can be done in about 2 minutes each time maybe 5-10 minutes when you are just starting out.
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PCT for anavar only cycle wouln`t have to be too many compound probably just Nolva for a couple weeks. For a test cycle I would suggest a clomid/nolva combo for 4 weeks.
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I dont mind getting needles at all. but the thought of giving one to myself is a lil diff. I will be doin this alone. I have a friend that lives like 5 hrs away that is helping me with it some. Very small community so I cant really do anything that would blow me up quick. can you get Nolva or the counter or have to order it? how many mg of nolva ED? and do i start as soon as the cycle is over? or wait a few? how many mg a day of Anavar Ed?
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You would start pct basically right away after an oral only cycle and you can order pct from the sponsor ar-r.com
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Anavar is very weak and will build very little or even no muscle mass, what are your goals?
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Hey I was looking into Anavar, Tbol and Winny as an oral only cycle.. I am 25, 5'9" 195 about 12% BF and not looking to gain a lot of mass. 10 lbs or so would be perfect and would like to get cut up for summer with a good str gain.I also want to do something that will allow me to keep a lot of gains.
I have Creatine,N.O. Explode, Protein , Glutamine, Glucosamine,and Fish oil to go along with what i take. so any help would be great
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that was my first post. thats my goal
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have been taking 50mg daily with anavar and really have not seen a difference, maybe a feel a little fuller arms and back-wiseOriginally Posted by redz
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anavar i have been told too take 60 too 80 mg ed for 8 weeks too see any results the pct starts the next day after last var dose clomid starts
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Take milk thistle daily to protect your liver is your running orals.
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Well as far as anavar with winny as an oral only cycle. I have a buddy in a chair that has taken those 2 orals the past 2 springs and shows great results. He cant do sit ups but it still seems to help his bf in that area. 50mg winny and 50mg anavar ed for 6 to 8 weeks is what he does.
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You are not going to get 10lbs of lean muscle off var and winny or tbol.
Oral only cycles tend not to be very good. It's also not recommended to run more than one oral at a time and for more than 4-6 weeks. Although var and winny are quite mild.
I recommend a 10-12 week cycle of test e at 500mg a week but if you insist on doing an oral only cycle and want 10lbs of lean muscle I'd say dbol.
Dbol is not normally associated with lean gains as it causes a lot of water bloat but if you take adex with it you can control the bloat. You may still get a little water from it but at least dbol is strong enough to put some muscle on you unlike var and winny which are nice to harden up and gain a little strength but in terms of gaining muscle mass I really don't think you'll see anything from var and winny.
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Thats some really bad advice, i would recomend you read more and post less...
To the op, tbol would be just about ok to run on its own, all other cycles should have some form of test as a base...
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Good point about the test as a base!
You may not be able to get it up on your cycle as all steroids reduce your natural test production which is why you should have at least a trt dose of test in every cycle.
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The only oral cycle I would ever suggest would be
an ANAVAR cycle.
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I don't recommend any oral only cycle but if that is the road he is set on going down and is aiming for "10lbs or so" then var is not what he needs to achieve those goals.
He'll be lucky to walk away with 10lbs of muscle with a dbol or drol cycle and those are the strongest orals available.
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The best oral only cycle is the one where you dig deep pull some big balls out and inject
Edit unless you are too young which imo is less than 25 then you shouldn't be doing anything
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