deca 50 + tren enenthate + test cypionate + sus 250

[notafatboyanymore]

hi guys just starting a new cycle, just wanna know if anyone has done it before or anything like it or could give me any advise or opinions.

Age 24
Height 6'1
Weight 204lb or 92.5kg
Bf% 13
Cycle history 1st. d anabol +test prop. 2nd winnie + d anabol. 3rd. winnie + sus 250. 4th clen + tren ace. 5th tren ace + winnie + clen.

Years training 5

diet. cardio day

5am 45min walk. 6am protein shake + eggwhite omelete (6 eggs) and two pieces wholemeal bread toasted with low fat margirine. 930am 200grams tuna and four pieces of fruit ie banana, kiwi, orange, apple. 12pm 400grams chicken breast. 3pm four pieces of fruit. 4pm training, protein shake immediatly after. 6pm 400grams lean meat ie pork, beef, chicken, lamb. 9pm protein shake.

diet weights day is very similar just instead of 400grams chicken at 12pm, i carbo load on either pasta (tomato base) or baked potatoes and low fat margirine.

protein shake: 30grams protein. 2grams carbs. 140 calories

any advise or opinions would be appreciated, and if u need anymore info let me know.

[Charger527]

what is your proposed cycle?? deca + test e + test c + sus??? whats the point of all the diffenrent test? also what doses are you looking at for starters?

[notafatboyanymore]

not test e, but trenbolone e. deca50: 600mg weekly. tren e: 1200mg weekly. test c: 600mg weekly. sus: 1000mg fortnighly. want test c with sus for massive test boost for bigger gains, and to keep my testosterone levels, because i dont wanna lose my penis due to the deca.
ive read alot of ur stuff charger, if u think i should change any dosages or anything, my ears are open.

[Matt]

Imo this is overkill, to many compounds at to higher doses...

How about:

Test c @ 750mgs ew
Tren e @500mgs ew

That is a great combo, its a myth to think that if your running tren or deca you need to run an extra high amount of test...

Also remember that if you ran your proposed cycle, imagine what you would need for you next?

[notafatboyanymore]

thanks 007, do u think i could run them all at smaller dosages. or perhaps eliminate sus alltogether and use the others at small dosages?

[Charger527]

ah my bad misread,

ok those are huge doses, thats up there with what pros take, your looking at 2900mg of gear a week, thats a massive amount 1200 mg of tren is crazy. i dont really see the point of the sus, all it will do is mess your blood levels right up, sus is usually taken eod.

Running deca and tren together is new to me, why do you want to run the two together?

ok, what where the amounts in your previous cycles and how long is this propsed cycle going to run?

[Charger527]

Imo this is overkill, to many compounds at to higher doses...

How about:

Test c @ 750mgs ew
Tren e @500mgs ew

That is a great combo, its a myth to think that if your running tren or deca you need to run an extra high amount of test...

Also remember that if you ran your proposed cycle, imagine what you would need for you next?

Spot on, depending on what your previous cycle doese and lengths are

[Noles12]

there is no need to run the sust and the cyp together. run one or the other and back the doses down a little. I would never run tren that high, i couldnt imagine the sides. Also you plan on running two 19-nor?

[notafatboyanymore]

ur all right bout the sus, i think i will illiminate it and keep it for another cycle perhaps by itself.
i have run Tren at 700mg ew + winnie 3000mg ew and got very nice results with minimal sides (only headaches). sus 1000mg fortnightly. test prop 2000mg ew + deca50 600mg ew. and a few others, but never had bad sides. ran most cycles from 8-10 weeks.

for the big increase in tren, was listening to what a friend recommended... clearly shouldnt listen to him.
Noles12: not sure what two 19-nor is?
also i did want to incorporate the deca because it will expire in 4 months.
and again wanted to run deca and tren e together because friend ran it and got nice results, but u guys think its silly?

[Noles12]

ur all right bout the sus, i think i will illiminate it and keep it for another cycle perhaps by itself.
i have run Tren at 700mg ew + winnie 3000mg ew and got very nice results with minimal sides (only headaches). sus 1000mg fortnightly. test prop 2000mg ew + deca50 600mg ew. and a few others, but never had bad sides. ran most cycles from 8-10 weeks.

for the big increase in tren, was listening to what a friend recommended... clearly shouldnt listen to him.
Noles12: not sure what two 19-nor is?
also i did want to incorporate the deca because it will expire in 4 months.
and again wanted to run deca and tren e together because friend ran it and got nice results, but u guys think its silly?

Both tren and deca are classified as "19-nors". When run together progesterone related gyno is common. Many guys wont run them at the same time.

Also not to bash you but if that is you in the avi and you have run compounds at those doses then your diet needs some serious help.

[wharton]

ur all right bout the sus, i think i will illiminate it and keep it for another cycle perhaps by itself.
i have run Tren at 700mg ew + winnie 3000mg ew and got very nice results with minimal sides (only headaches). sus 1000mg fortnightly. test prop 2000mg ew + deca50 600mg ew. and a few others, but never had bad sides. ran most cycles from 8-10 weeks.

for the big increase in tren, was listening to what a friend recommended... clearly shouldnt listen to him.
Noles12: not sure what two 19-nor is?
also i did want to incorporate the deca because it will expire in 4 months.
and again wanted to run deca and tren e together because friend ran it and got nice results, but u guys think its silly?

if thats you in your avatar then you best rethink weather your steds are real and check your diet, After those cycles you should be packing some major pounds if your diet was good and the steds were real. Get over to the diet section and get it sorted before your cycle you will be thanking me afterwards.

[notafatboyanymore]

noles/wharton: nah man theres no bashing, clearly if ur avatars are actually u, u know what u talkin bout. thats an old pic, maybe 9 - 10 months ago, and prob 10kg (22lb) less than what am now, i put new one up soon. but as for the gyno, should i run nolv and arimidex with it? or just forget about them two together?

[notafatboyanymore]

p.s. i dont think any1 would bash here. everyone just here for opinions and constructive criticism, and help. no offence taken noles

[hit me]

you really need to lay off the aas ,5 cycles and your only 22lbs up from in the avatar picture then there is something very wrong ,i bet on that being your diet.

[notafatboyanymore]

yeh diet wasnt great until recently, a couple of cycles were pretty much a waste due to diet and i had absolutely NO knowledge of pct.

[wharton]

I didnt mean to bash, Just trying to nudge you in the right direction. Before your next cycle post up your diet in the diet section and get advice on your goals and food intake, if all checks out then your good to go, If somethings out fix it, either way I look forward to the results of the cycle in the future.

My sugestions on what you said you have would be:

Sus 3ml per wk for the first 3wks split into 3 inj per wk(prop would be a etter option)

Cyp wk 1-3 2ml

cyp wk 4-end of cycle 3ml per wk

Deca 400-600mg/wk wk1- two weeks before the end of cycle

Maybe some adex 0.25 eod to keep the sides at bay

[notafatboyanymore]

thanks wharton, that sounds pretty good. i will brush up on my diet and maybe start the cycle in a few weeks

[wharton]

thanks wharton, that sounds pretty good. i will brush up on my diet and maybe start the cycle in a few weeks

good man keep us posted about the results with the new changes, Once your diet is spot on you will grow all year round weather on a cycle or not.