time off?

[tomt45]

I just completed my last cycle 9 weeks ago. I ran test cyp 500mg/w, 400mg deca/wk for 12 weeks. Also I ran dbol at 30mg ed for 4 weeks. I also ran nolva at 20mg ed throughout the cycle and did 3 weeks of clomid therapy 3 weeks after my last injection. So basically I completed pct 3 weeks ago.

I plan to run test prop 75mg ed, tren a 50mg ed for 12 weeks and either winstrol 50 mg ed weeks 9-12 or masteron weeks 6-12 100mg eod. I also plan to run arimidex at .25mg ed and prami at .25 mg ed throughout the cycle. My goal is to gain 15 lean lbs while decreasing my bf % by 2-4%

This will be my third cycle. I am 25. I am 5'8" 180lbs with 9-10%bf(I know that is pretty small for running two cycles)

I have a few questions. Considering this is only my third should I go with winstrol or masteron or neither and just stick with the test prop/tren a?

Also I have read that time on+pct=time off. So in this situation I completed my cycle 9 weeks ago. I finished pct about 3 weeks ago. Does that mean I can start my cycle 12, 15, or 18 weeks after my last injection?

Thanks a lot for any responses. Also if you see any problems with my cycle let me know.

[tomt45]

Any advice would really be appreciated!

[c-Z]

Clomid for pct only?

Yes 5'8 180 is small for 2 cycles already.....

Best way to tell if your ready to cycle is get blood work....

[bjpennnn]

time on+pct=time off

[bjpennnn]

Clomid for pct only?

Yes 5'8 180 is small for 2 cycles already.....

Best way to tell if your ready to cycle is get blood work....

exactly

[marcus300]

You need food more than steroids,

all the rest as been answered above ^^^

[Mr Busta sweat]

I really dont think theres any reason to go with more than two Compounds unless your a Veteran BB and you have been using for years. Besides you could save the money and buy you some good food.

[tomt45]

Thanks guys I appreciate all the advice. I did bulk up to 195 and have cut a ton of bf%in the last few months. So that is why I am down to 180. I admit I totally rushed into my first cycle. I definately should have waited but it is what it is.

But I think my diet is really good right now. I admit I have days that I slack a little but not very much. Since I have started working out again about 2 years ago, I have completely dedicated my life to getting big. I look like a completely different person than I did 1.5 years ago.

You asked about my pct. I ran nolvadex at 20mg ed througout the entire cycle and 6 weeks after my last injection. I did clomid 3 weeks after my last injection. 300mg 1 day, days 1-10 100mg, days 10-25 50 mg. Was that not good enough?

For this next cycle I plan to...
PCT starts 4 days after last test inj
clomid 100mg Ed / nolva 40mg week one
clomid 50mg Ed / nolva 20mg weeks 2-4
Also i plan to run arimidex and prami both at .25 mg ed throughout the entire cycle.


I think I will just skip the winstrol/masteron and go with just test prop and tren a. This may be a stupid question but what should I say if I go to the doc to get bloodwork done? I don't want to tell a doc about using gear.

[c-Z]

Good to see someone can take negative criticism. You seem to have your head on straight atleast. most people become pricks when they dont hear what they want to hear.

Oh ok i see so you did run nolva in pct. Personally for a mild cycle i would do like 100/50/50/50 clomid and 40/20/20/20 nolva. for a more harsher cycles double the first two weeks... is how i usually run.

As per the doc... Shit idk i was honest with my doc....

[tomt45]

I need the criticism man. Sometimes what I want to hear and what I need to hear are two completely different things. So I really do appreciate it.

I guess I do have a doctor that I can ask. Its confidential so I guess its no big deal. I will just be honest with him. But what exactly should I ask to test for? Or what did you say when you talked to your doc?

[c-Z]

I just told him what was up... he knew what tests i needed done...

[bber99]

Best way to tell if your ready to cycle is get blood work....

So if bloodwork all came back in normal ranges, would you even hesitate to go back on?
Or would you still want to let your endocrine system do its own thing for a while?
Or "let your receptors clear out" is what I always hear, any truth to that?

[sean_holland]

Yeah, if you have a good doctor, just be honest with him. I would rather he knows what he's looking for, or why things might seem different then the average Joe. They have patient/doctor confidentiality so no worries. He may not morally agree, but its not his call.

Honesty is the best policy, everyone in my life knows what I'm up to, I got nothing to hide, and f*ck um if they don't like it.

[c-Z]

Usually its best to get bloodwork done before cycling so you have a basis for where you should be. this way when off cycle if your in the normal range again then ok your gtg.

My doc first found out of my aas use when i shot my quad and it swole up like a mofo. it was interesting. He was puzzled for a sec until i told him why its swollen. dude was cool with it. small lecture made sure im doing it safely etc.

just tell him whats up

[jordann]

I don't want to tell a doc about using gear.

I was in the same boat. When I went to do blood tests, my doctor (who has also been my family doctor for years) got very defensive and kept saying that I was "being stupid" and "shouldn't have done it in the first place".

But, they are entitled to help since it is their job and don't forget that there is that confidentiality between you two only. Good luck.

[Kingkuts]

I didn't tell my doctor due to the fact I know her personally, and deal with her in other areas of business. So, I told her I wanted to have my yearly blood work done, to check my liver, kidneys, etc. I also told her that I have had a low sex drive lately and felt sluggish lately. I asked her to also check my testosterone levels just to be safe.

[Ashop]

I just completed my last cycle 9 weeks ago. I ran test cyp 500mg/w, 400mg deca/wk for 12 weeks. Also I ran dbol at 30mg ed for 4 weeks. I also ran nolva at 20mg ed throughout the cycle and did 3 weeks of clomid therapy 3 weeks after my last injection. So basically I completed pct 3 weeks ago.

I plan to run test prop 75mg ed, tren a 50mg ed for 12 weeks and either winstrol 50 mg ed weeks 9-12 or masteron weeks 6-12 100mg eod. I also plan to run arimidex at .25mg ed and prami at .25 mg ed throughout the cycle. My goal is to gain 15 lean lbs while decreasing my bf % by 2-4%

This will be my third cycle. I am 25. I am 5'8" 180lbs with 9-10%bf(I know that is pretty small for running two cycles)

I have a few questions. Considering this is only my third should I go with winstrol or masteron or neither and just stick with the test prop/tren a?

Also I have read that time on+pct=time off. So in this situation I completed my cycle 9 weeks ago. I finished pct about 3 weeks ago. Does that mean I can start my cycle 12, 15, or 18 weeks after my last injection?

Thanks a lot for any responses. Also if you see any problems with my cycle let me know.

Time ON=Time OFF has always been a good general rule of thumb that works well.