Fake Karachi Sus 250??

[schrodinger123]

Got a batch of Karachis in the other day, and these really bothered me when I got them in. At first, it seemed like they were not filled enough, but upon further comparison to some real ones that I have, I realized that the amps are shaped differently.

See the attached pic. The two on the right are the amps in question, while the two on the left are believed to be good amps (as verified on previous posts).

The primary differences are as follows:

1. The bottom portion of the amp (containing oil when upright) is too tall when compared with real amps.

2. The breakline of the questionable amps have a thick, white ring. Real ones.. not quite so thick, although it varies from real amp to real amp somewhat.

3. The top portion of the questionable amps don't have the characteristic karachi shape. Look at the picture. The questionable amps have pointy-er tops than known real amps.

4. I know you can't see this from my picture, as I am not a great camera operator, but the font for Expy and B No. looks OK and has the usual curvature to it. The only thing that bothered me was that all of the questionable amps have a period after Exp. (questionable amps say: EXP. 6/2010). All real amps I have seen do NOT have the period in EXP date. Real amps DO have a period after batch number (questionable amps say: BN. 520265XV). Has anyone seen real Karachis with a period after EXP?

So I got these from a reputable supplier (all online references to his business are VERY good). He even takes CC. But my experiences with him are mixed. Got fake Anabols, and these Karachis. He did replace the fake Anabols with real Jelfa Enanthate, but only 100mg/ml. Better than nothing, but I want to know what folks think about these Karachis cause I think they need to go back as well...

[nilrac]

The amps on the right don't look right to me at all.

[nilrac]

Have you pinned any of the amps on the left? They look the same as mine.

[schrodinger123]

Yes, I did use some of the left amps. Felt like sus during inject, but was in the middle of cycle so hard to tell whats what. My belief is that left is authentic and knowledgable folks on this board seem to agree with that on previous post...

I ran a couple of the right amps too. Guess what, they felt fine too during inject, and no weird allergic reaction, lump or anything. But my guess is that sesame oil + BA would look and feel just like sus, so I don't think that this means much... I ran them for a couple of weeks mid omnadren cycle, and strangely the mild acne I typically get on cycle cleared up until about a week after I switched back to omnadren.... Furthermore, just looking at them, I agree that those amps just don't seem right...

[nilrac]

What do you mean in middle of cycle? Surely you had enough compound for an entire cycle?

I only ask since the ones on the left are identical to the Sustanon I have currently. I was going to start them soon, but have pharma testoviron (enanthate) now which I know is 100% legit. So I will be using that instead.

[schrodinger123]

Sure, plenty. But I wanted to know if those damned suspicious amps were any good. Honestly, at first, I fell for the funky Karachis. I thought I could just switch over to a different brant of sus and it would make no difference. But when my cycle went south I realized that this is a good reason to never switch mid cycle... I am 2nd year AAS dude, so I still do bonehead things... But it all seemed to make perfect sense at the time...

So as I have learned over the last couple of years, I don't think I have done too terribly bad. I have never gotten completely ripped. Every vendor I have worked with sent something. 80% of what I got I believe to be legit, and I am very picky. 20% was bogus, and I initially had 50 of those funky Karachis... But the bogus stuff is usually easy to spot. ANY deviation from expected is 9 times out of 10 a indicator of a fake. I'm not a buyer into the 'real fake gear' theory, cause why would the vendor take the time to make fakes, then sell you real gear in those fake shells?? WTF? Either he rips you or not... know what I mean?

[nilrac]

So what you are saying... is your cycle was going well until you switched to the "funky" amps?

[anabolic1979]

the left look like the ones i get. i know sometimes the amps vary in shape a little but i have not seen that shape before.

[anabolic1979]

i sent you a pm

[Sheven]

get some pics with the EXP and maybe we can tell you more

[schrodinger123]

Good feedback, I just suck with a digital camera. I can tell you that the expy and batch font looks OK, and it curves like it should on real amps.

How about I type what one of the questionable amps says, and see if you can infer anything from that.

Questionable amp:
BN. 520265XV
EXP. 6/2012

This is copied EXACTLY from the questionable amp. Yes, there is a period after EXP on EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WEIRD AMPS. All the Karachis that I have seen in the past have a period after BN., but none of the real ones I had a period after EXP. I think this is the most telling detail. Why would this batch of Karachis have a period there (after EXP) while none of the other ones do...

Thanks for taking the time... if I am able to get a good shot of this with my POS camera, I will post it. But can we infer anything from the period after EXP issue?