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    NCAA Athlete, drug test, took deca, need help! PLEASE!

    I need f***ng help.

    I made a mistake about 8 months ago and took 3cc's of deca. It was 200mg/vial, and i took 3 vials of it.

    I didn't think i would have a drug screening this year but yesterday my coach told me we do and now bam, i'm f***ed.

    Guys, if any of you can help me i would be forever greatful.

    I had some extra bodyfat around my stomach/chest when i started. If i burn off as much fat as possible do you think it can make a difference?

    I don't know what the f***k to do at this point.

    Please help guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    I need f***ng help.

    I made a mistake about 8 months ago and took 3cc's of deca. It was 200mg/vial, and i took 3 vials of it.

    I didn't think i would have a drug screening this year but yesterday my coach told me we do and now bam, i'm f***ed.

    Guys, if any of you can help me i would be forever greatful.

    I had some extra bodyfat around my stomach/chest when i started. If i burn off as much fat as possible do you think it can make a difference?

    I don't know what the f***k to do at this point.

    Please help guys.
    Make a difference to what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Make a difference to what?

    Clearing out/flushing my system

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    Clearing out/flushing my system
    To my understanding it can be detected up to the 18month mark, no matter if you had 18% bf or 6% bf

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    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    To my understanding it can be detected up to the 18month mark, no matter if you had 18% bf or 6% bf
    Son of a b**ch, you'd figure someone would have figured out how to trick the system by now.

    I'm seeing a supplement called Andro 150 when I'm doing searches online. I remember reading that one athlete wrote down/told his coach that he was taking 19-nor-andro, and that is what threw off his test, and he got away with it.

    Would Andro 150 throw off the test in reguards to my "deca" levels??

    F**K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    Son of a b**ch, you'd figure someone would have figured out how to trick the system by now.

    I'm seeing a supplement called Andro 150 when I'm doing searches online. I remember reading that one athlete wrote down/told his coach that he was taking 19-nor-andro, and that is what threw off his test, and he got away with it.

    Would Andro 150 throw off the test in reguards to my "deca" levels??

    F**K.
    I dont know what all is on the NCAA ban substance list, but the Andro 150 may be on it.

    No point blaming a failed drug test on another banned drug

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    Son of a b**ch, you'd figure someone would have figured out how to trick the system by now.

    I'm seeing a supplement called Andro 150 when I'm doing searches online. I remember reading that one athlete wrote down/told his coach that he was taking 19-nor-andro, and that is what threw off his test, and he got away with it.

    Would Andro 150 throw off the test in reguards to my "deca" levels??

    F**K.
    Ive no idea but sounds very unlikely

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    Not much you can do man... Deca is one of those compounds that is detectable for a very long time. I think it's around 1.5 years....

    Hopefully you aren't a scholarship player.

    Sorry bro :S

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    The deca isnt hanging around in your fat.

    Sorry man

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    Yet another reason we recommend NOT to do any AAS until you are 24+, you never know what life might throw at you but at 25 you have a better idea.

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    Aye yey yey.

    F**K!

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    More than likely you're out of luck. Unless there's a way to use someone elses pee but that's probably not possible in your situation.

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    Well, I just looked it up, and Andro 150 is not on the ban substance list, that is the good news.

    The bad news.... if the NCAA does not consider it a performance enhancer in the same way as steroids or prohormones, then it is going to be hard to explain how the legal Andro 150 resulted in the urine tests they take from you, know what I mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4R View Post
    Well, I just looked it up, and Andro 150 is not on the ban substance list, that is the good news.

    The bad news.... if the NCAA does not consider it a performance enhancer in the same way as steroids or prohormones, then it is going to be hard to explain how the legal Andro 150 resulted in the urine tests they take from you, know what I mean?
    Yeah I do.

    I believe I can say I did research and the NOR-4-AD (5mg) that is in it can fluctuate my nandrolone levels. I BELIEVE.

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    Btw what made you do just 3cc of deca? Were you running anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stack_it View Post
    Btw what made you do just 3cc of deca? Were you running anything else?
    Research on detection times. Something I should have thought about before I began my cycle, I know.

    Yes, I was running test E at 500mg/week, and Dbol at 40mg ed.

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    The NCAA doesnt post the exact brand names of everything on the banned listt. They have categories with a few major ingredients then under each subcategory it akso says"and anything related". Which means if your supplement you are talking about contains a 19-nor prohormone then you will get in trouble anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    The NCAA doesnt post the exact brand names of everything on the banned listt. They have categories with a few major ingredients then under each subcategory it akso says"and anything related". Which means if your supplement you are talking about contains a 19-nor prohormone then you will get in trouble anyways
    Can't you play dumb?

    Just say you ordered it online, and didn't know it contained 19-nor?

    And apologize, say you won't take it again, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    Can't you play dumb?

    Just say you ordered it online, and didn't know it contained 19-nor?

    And apologize, say you won't take it again, etc.
    Odds are, if you try to play the 'I didnt know' card, it wont work. Their thought process is, you play for them, you should know what you can and cant take. And if you dont know, you ask first.

    Look, like Noles said, its not so much product names that are on the ban list, but the ingredient. The only reason I said Andro 150 is not on it, is because that is what the company who manufactures it said. I did not look into all the ingredients in it though.

    No matter what you try to pull off with this, dont expect it to work. I am not trying to scare you, but they take this very seriously. And I find it hard to believe that a failed drug test is going to be thrown to the side because some kid says "it was a supplement". They can and will figure out what it is.

    Sorry man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G4R View Post
    Odds are, if you try to play the 'I didnt know' card, it wont work. Their thought process is, you play for them, you should know what you can and cant take. And if you dont know, you ask first.

    Look, like Noles said, its not so much product names that are on the ban list, but the ingredient. The only reason I said Andro 150 is not on it, is because that is what the company who manufactures it said. I did not look into all the ingredients in it though.

    No matter what you try to pull off with this, dont expect it to work. I am not trying to scare you, but they take this very seriously. And I find it hard to believe that a failed drug test is going to be thrown to the side because some kid says "it was a supplement". They can and will figure out what it is.

    Sorry man.

    I understand bro, thanks for taking the time to write all that up too.

    Anyone else??

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    You can't try to blame it on a legal PH, since they are all banned in sports as well. But at least you wouldn't have to worry about legal and moral repercussions (if you blame it on the Decavol or whatever and play dumb).

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    I've got to do my research, but I also BELIEVE I can tell them I'm on other supplements that are throwing it off as well.

    Those are Andro XS, 1-Andro RX, Finaflex 1-Andro, DaVinci Labs Andro Effects, Andro Plus, and Andro T.

    This information should be helping other athletes/anyone who has to pass a drug test as well.

    G4R if you could let me know if the above supplements are on the NCAA list as well I'd appreciate it.

    If not I've got some more research to do.

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    perhaps try some how using a condom and a pin? lol iduno Im just throwing out ideas.

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    Alot of pro athletes get urin put into them with a tub and then just pee it out...I dout you can do that on your own but if you can find a doc who would help you out perhaps it would work?

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    get a wizzinator its a fake dick u can order online. u mix fake urine in it so u will pass

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    Cup of your sister's urine taped to your leg. They'll wanna know why you are ovulating though.

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    Nah that wont work. They register temperature and bacterial sterility when you give your echantillon and theyll know right away if its not real unless your fake urine is fresh from less than an hour.

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    BUMP.. Thanks for the opinions guys, appreciate it

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    BUMP.. Thanks for the opinions guys, appreciate it
    get the wizzinator at fill it with one of your friends clean urin an hour before the test???


    Just throwing that our there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndriodLee View Post
    get the wizzinator at fill it with one of your friends clean urin an hour before the test???


    Just throwing that our there...
    You guys dont understand how a NCAA drug test works do you?

    They physically stand staring at your member as you pee in the cup. There is no way to fake that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    You guys dont understand how a NCAA drug test works do you?

    They physically stand staring at your member as you pee in the cup. There is no way to fake that.
    your right. I don't. The guy sounds desperate so what ever man I'm just throwing suggestions out there. But on another note... He should of researched his chemicals a bit more before he decided to take them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noles12 View Post
    They physically stand staring at your member as you pee in the cup. There is no way to fake that.
    Well there is, but it involves a catheter and great discomfort. Basically the same thing that Christian Bale did in that clip a few posts above.

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    did your coach actually tell you that YOU were going to be tested.. most sports only test a few players per team not the entire team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingkong21 View Post
    I need f***ng help.

    I made a mistake about 8 months ago and took 3cc's of deca. It was 200mg/vial, and i took 3 vials of it.

    I didn't think i would have a drug screening this year but yesterday my coach told me we do and now bam, i'm f***ed.

    Guys, if any of you can help me i would be forever greatful.

    I had some extra bodyfat around my stomach/chest when i started. If i burn off as much fat as possible do you think it can make a difference?

    I don't know what the f***k to do at this point.

    Please help guys.
    lets see, 8 months, 600mg

    for crying out loud, i bet your nandrolone levels are back to human limits for a few months now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbo View Post
    lets see, 8 months, 600mg

    for crying out loud, i bet your nandrolone levels are back to human limits for a few months now.
    What are you talking about. Nandrolone levels?

    Deca has metabolites that are detectable for up to 18 months in urine. Even if he hasnt used it in 8 months and its no longer at a high dose in his system, it can still be detected in urine

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbo View Post
    lets see, 8 months, 600mg

    for crying out loud, i bet your nandrolone levels are back to human limits for a few months now.
    WTF???? There is no "human limit" for nandrolone, since it is artificially derived from testosterone. It is not naturally present in anyone. Unless you somehow just meant that metabolite levels are undetectably low on a ppm scale.

    Edit: it appears I put my foot in my mouth. Keep reading for more.
    Last edited by Bonaparte; 07-08-2010 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonaparte View Post
    WTF???? There is no "human limit" for nandrolone, since it is artificially derived from testosterone. It is not naturally present in anyone. If you don't have the slightest clue as to what you're talking about, don't post. Unless you somehow just meant that metabolite levels are undetectably low on a ppm scale.

    why dont you at least google something before acting smart. DF

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    Quote Originally Posted by carbo View Post
    why dont you at least google something before acting smart. DF
    Umm i think you should direct this comment at yourself. Nandrolone levels are so miniscule in the human body naturally. The NCAA doesnt test for how high your nandrolone levels are. They test for foreign substannces which the metabolites of deca are present in the blood for up to 18 months
    Last edited by Noles12; 07-08-2010 at 10:55 AM.

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    a hand warmer packet will keep pee at right temp it worked 4 me with wizzinator

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