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    PCT while on cycle?

    Ok, in a perfect world I would never have to write this thread, but we all know this isn't a perfect world. In the last week I have responded to 3 different guys who either ran their pct while on their cycle, ran the pct right at the end of the cycle before the suppressive compounds cleared, or thought if you used serms or ai's on cycle then you didn't need a pct.
    Let's back up a bit and explain why we need pct and what it does. Our bodies attempt to keep a natural balance of hormonal levels. When we inject steroids, our bodies sense the presence and recognize it as elevated testosterone levels, therefore the body lowers or ceases it's natural production. Our bodies also attempt to keep somewhat of a balance between testosterone and estrogen, that's why the higher testosterone levels may lead to increased estrogen. Now I'm certainly no doctor, and my brain often works like a cartoon, so I'll explain what happens in cartoon fashion. After you finish the cycle and the suppressive compounds clear, we take serms, which go up and tap on our brains and say "hey dumbass, produce some more testosterone". our brain looks and says "oh, my bad" and the process of restoring our natural levels gets a kick in the pants. Now let's assume we start our pct while on cycle or before the compounds clear our system. the serm makes it's trip to our brain and says "hey dumbass, produce some more testosterone", the brain checks and sees what it feels is an abundance of testosterone, and tells the serm "hey fvck off mate, you aren't the boss of me". Of course the serm does other things, but this is my cartoon and I'm keeping it simple.
    To summarize, the ability of pct compounds to restore our natural testosterone production is no match for the extremely suppressive nature of the steroids we inject, so to start pct before the suppressive compounds clear only wastes the pct chems and makes for an inadequate and unsuccessful pct.

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    bump lol

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    Lol funny but very well said.

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    for some reason, once i read that your brain runs like a cartoon, i read the rest of it in an elmer fudd voice :P

    at the same time, it's pretty simple and makes absolute sense....

    even still, i dont think a lot of young guys take pct seriously....other than myself, i dont know anyone who does. a friend of mine ran nolva for 8 days (he wouldn't listen to me one bit)..thought it was enough, but didn't want to buy a bottle because it was 100 tabs, and he only wanted 30...he felt the money was a waste. (even though you can do 2 or 3 pct's depending on dose, etc with that bottle)

    i just dont comprehend how someone can buy 8 bottles of test, 8 bottles of eq, 2 or 3 bottles of winny...then complain about the cost (cheap) of one bottle of nolvadex and a bottle of clomid.

    sorry for the rant..just..kinda pisses me off a bit :P

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    Whats a pct?

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    Good post bro..

    For those that think pct is required during ones cycle, or are a little confused to when to take it, the clue is in the name POST cycle therapy..
    Do not ask me for a source check.






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    sad commentary in our times when a thread like this is needed. basically spoon feeding, no no!!! breast feeding. Good of ya to look out for the less that educated Big, I knew there was something to that Darwin guys theory, too bad its not a law.


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    Maybe putting it in terms they understand will keep them from telling me they researched and know their cycle is perfect, while they are running dbol only and nolva for the first three weeks, taking a break from serms then running clomid and nolva for the last couple of weeks during their dbol only.

    Hopefully their "extensive research" they are doing may just lead them to this thread and i wont have to go through that again

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