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    hi im new here

    Hi. Been training for about 3years, been thinking of running a cycle, done some research. Found that for the first cycle its best to run test. I'm open to advice, could you guys help me to put together a cycle.

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    Welcome. Give us more details..

    age
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    Oh and stats

    Age:22
    Height:6'2"
    Weight:96kg
    Bf: 14%

    Probably nolva. Maybe run an AI or have one on hand through cycle
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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha chump View Post
    Oh and stats

    Age:22
    Height:6'2"
    Weight:96kg
    Bf: 14%

    Probably nolva. Maybe run an AI or have one on hand through cycle
    Your still kinda young to run a cycle but generally a first cycle would consist of 4-500mg of test e a week for 10-12 weeks followed by a nolva and clomid pct.

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    Welcome, ! yes most people will say your too young. Be sure to post pics too!

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    Agree with Sigman regarding first cycle. Test-E 50mg/wk for 10-12 wks with clomid and nolva pct. On the other hand, you should probably wait a couple of years to do your first cycle. If you choose to do it now....best of luck. Diet and training are critical

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    he means 500mg / week ..
    yes, without diet and a good training regime you will not be reaching full potential of your cycles. Good Luck!

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    Thanks guys! I will probably start at 5000cals. Monitor fat gain
    .would it be better to run a PH. Just to get the hang of it?
    And should i have an AI on hand incase gyno

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    Always keep an ai on hand...
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    getting confused on here these days, arent we supposed to NOT advise ppl under 25?

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    What if you have had your growth plates checked and test levels?

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    You're too young, stay natural for a few more years yet. If you don't you may regret it for the rest of your life.
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    Not being a smart ass,
    Just wondering why wait a few more years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha chump View Post
    Not being a smart ass,
    Just wondering why wait a few more years?
    the following is quoted from a respected vet on here, marcus300.

    AGE
    In humans your Endocrine system is not fully functional until an average age of 25yrs, although the main development is up to around 21yrs it still fluctuates a little bit up to its fully functional age. There is a risk of permanently damaging your HPTA if you take AAS to young and you could end up with symptoms of andropause and HRT for life. Symptoms could be Limp dick, low libido, depression, low energy, low endurance, erection problems and many more but.......are these the types of symptoms you want to have in your 20's?. Believe me its hard to cope with these in your 40's yet alone in your prime of your life.

    Around this age your Testosterone levels are the highest they going to be in your life naturally, so use what you have and don't take the risk of damage, I am passionate about this because ive seen it many times with young kids wanting to looking like their heroes and they think the answer is in an injection/tablet.

    Taking AAS to young can also cause problems with development, one other main problem is premature sealing of your epiphyeal bone and the consequences mean that you wont grow as big as your genetics could allow you to, there is a test which can be done to see if your growth plates have sealed yet but the average age is around 21yrs old.

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    Ok I see. That being said I know this is prob a stupid question as PH are pretty much an AAS but would a 4 week epistane cycle be bad too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpha chump View Post
    Ok I see. That being said I know this is prob a stupid question as PH are pretty much an AAS but would a 4 week epistane cycle be bad too?
    yep, or worse. go for zma, hmb and creatine

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