Good second cycle?

[awms]

finished my first cycle two weeks ago and I want to run another cycle in about 12 weeks.

My first cycle was: Tbol 100mg a day weeks 1-4
Test cyp 500mg weeks 1-10

I gained around 23lbs and so far have kept about 15lbs of solid muscle.

For my next cycle I have a couple ideas but you guys let me know what you think?

cycle 1: 500mg test cyp weeks 1-10
325mg Deca weeks 1-8
50mg anavar/50mg Tbol weeks 1-4
Letro 2.5mg every 4th day

cycle 2: 750mg Test weeks 1-10
anavar 50mg/50mg tbol weeks 1-4
Letro 2.5mg every 4th day

I want to make very lean gains! dont like the bloated look thats why I have the letro in there.

[Big]

8 weeks is short for deca, and I'm not a fan of letro on cycle
12 weeks may also be too soon, I'd recommend blood work

[suttie]

Letro is too strong imo ,your better of going for adex at around .25-.5mgs eod,as for your cycle plan i think both can be better ,

cycle 1- deca at 325mgs for 8 weeks is cutting it fine imo 400mgs 10 weeks min i would say so let see

weeks 1-12 500mgs test c per week

weeks 1-10 400mgs deca per week

weeks 10-14 50mg var per day

weeks 1-12 400iu hcg every 4th day (A MUST WITH ANY 19 NOR IMO)


cycle 2-750mgs of test may give more bloat and sides for some ,i wouldent mix the var and tbol but thats just me ,again adex on cycle

weeks 1-4 50mgs tbol ed

weeks 1-12 500/750mgs test c per week

weeks 10-14 50mgs var ed

weeks 1-12 adex

nolvadex and clomid pct for both cycles

[awms]

Alright I just wasnt sure...I want to run the test a bit longer then the deca so that its out of my system when pct comes around. I was also thinking eq? any one try it?

[awms]

how about 600mg eq weeks 1-10 and 500mg test weeks 1-12?

[suttie]

Eq is weak imo and wont give anywere the same results as deca BUT ITS ALOT LESS SERPRESIVE THAN DECA

[Sector]

how about 600mg eq weeks 1-10 and 500mg test weeks 1-12?

You seem very intent to add another compound. You made great gains on a 10 week cycle of Test with some Tbol. Why not repeat it and extend it to 12 weeks? Adding compounds shouldnt need to happen until you stop seeing gains on 500-750mg of Test.

If your willing to try Deca whats stoping you from giving Dbol a try? ( not that relavent im just curious why the preference of Tbol when you arent afraid of Deca bloat ).

[awms]

You seem very intent to add another compound. You made great gains on a 10 week cycle of Test with some Tbol. Why not repeat it and extend it to 12 weeks? Adding compounds shouldnt need to happen until you stop seeing gains on 500-750mg of Test.

If your looking willing to try Deca whats stoping you from giving Dbol a try?

Good call perhaps I should just run the same cycle? I just like the idea of trying new compounds. would letro get rid of dbol bloat? I really hate the bloated look!

[Sector]

Good call perhaps I should just run the same cycle? I just like the idea of trying new compounds. would letro get rid of dbol bloat? I really hate the bloated look!

Big aint a fan and hes been around the AAS game awhile. Letro is just too damn potent to be used for simple bloat control, adex or arim is where its at for on cycle AIs to control bloat/gyno prevention.

The bloat from dbol will drop down after you stop use around the 4th/5th week, especially with proper diet and a mild dose of an AI.

[awms]

How about 625mg for 12 weeks stacked with an oral?

[awms]

I started bloating like crazy even with .5mg of a-dex a day! I also got gyno so I had to jump on letro.

what dose should I run dbol? 30-40mg?