HP's next lineup

[HawaiianPride.]

Just want to get some input from the guru's out there on my next setup, this one should be fun. Any tweakage in mind, I'm all ears.

Stats:
5'11 (on a good day)
201.1lbs (empty stomach)
8% (caliper tested)
6 years consistent training experience. Off and on for 9.
3 years experience with Anabolics.

1-14sus @ 750mg PW
1-13eq @ 600mg PW
1-6tbol @ 60mg ED
8-14 var 60mg ed
1-14primo 50mg ED
HCG
Long r3 igf/Gh still up in the air depending on my funds.

On hand:
Nolva
Torem
Exe
Vitamin C
Liv52
NAC
Hawthorn Berry coq10
Celery Seed Extr

Really wanted to fit tren in there somewhere. Got about 60ml of it laying around here somewhere. Anyways, lets hear it folks.

[map200uk]

could you not replace the tbol with tren?

[HawaiianPride.]

I sure could. This could save me some dough considering I already have the Tren around here somewhere. Good point bro.

[map200uk]

Ive wanted to try tbol myself, if thats ot which I assume it is?

If it is, also..do you need to use both ot and var? My understanding is the affects would be similar..ot being like dbol but without the water retention

[HawaiianPride.]

Ive wanted to try tbol myself, if thats ot which I assume it is?

If it is, also..do you need to use both ot and var? My understanding is the affects would be similar..ot being like dbol but without the water retention

Simliar in a way but not completely the same. This is liquid tbol, same with the var. Just want to get the best of both worlds in one cycle :]

[map200uk]

ahhh ok, nice one , didn't know there was a liquid tbol , this turinabol we're talking about yea?

[HawaiianPride.]

Yes sir, with my source their both very very cheap. Pretty stoked on what's to be expected off this.

[tembe]

hawaiian just wondering if you started this cycle or changed it at all?

how u liking it?

[HawaiianPride.]

Never stared it. I got up to 230lbs on smaller cycles and opted to wait out this cycle for another time near in the future.

Thanks for the concern bro.

[tembe]

oh k fair enough bro

btw next time i run a bulking cycle ive decided to take your advice hp and run masteron with it...

wat effects do you feel you get during a bulk with it?

[HawaiianPride.]

It enhances other compounds, helps keep water under control, cannot form estrogen upon interaction with the aromatase enzyme yet still shows a very high affinity for it, reduces the amount of estrogen formed from other steroids as well because there are less aromatase enzymes to be used by those compounds to form estrogen with, increase muscle hardness and density in sub 10%, and suitable for pre-contest cycles.

[tembe]

what mg do u feel is needed per week to achieve this?

[HawaiianPride.]

100 mg every 2-3 day but I prefer 100mg ED.

[scotty51312]

Thought you were a mast fan HP? Is this a winter mass cycle?

[Vitruvian-Man]

Just want to get some input from the guru's out there on my next setup, this one should be fun. Any tweakage in mind, I'm all ears.

Stats:
5'11 (on a good day)
201.1lbs (empty stomach)
8% (caliper tested)
6 years consistent training experience. Off and on for 9.
3 years experience with Anabolics.

1-14sus @ 750mg PW
1-13eq @ 600mg PW
1-6tbol @ 60mg ED
8-14 var 60mg ed
1-14primo 50mg ED
HCG
Long r3 igf/Gh still up in the air depending on my funds.

On hand:
Nolva
Torem
Exe
Vitamin C
Liv52
NAC
Hawthorn Berry coq10
Celery Seed Extr

Really wanted to fit tren in there somewhere. Got about 60ml of it laying around here somewhere. Anyways, lets hear it folks.

That primo dose is so low... At that amount, I would write it off as a waste, and keep it for your next cycle and do like min 600 - 700mg/wk.

100 - 175mg/ed is primo's optimal dose IMO.

Replace the primo with some tren... which ester you got? Im assuming ace?

Something like this:

1-6 tbol @ 60mg ED
1-14 sust @ 750mg PW
1-13 EQ @ 600mg PW
10 - 16 Tren-A @ 50 - 75mg/ed
10-16.5 var 60mg ed

^^ Much better synergy in a stack like that, rather then with a low dose of primo.

The best cycles are similar.... Test/DHT-derivative/19-nor. And then throw in the option of an oral kicker. Tren/var work well together.

BTW, I thought you said you never run cycles without mast? what gives?

Hope that helps.

-VM

[HawaiianPride.]

That primo dose is so low... At that amount, I would write it off as a waste, and keep it for your next cycle and do like min 600 - 700mg/wk.

My goals back then have differed from what I believe in now. Next time I do Primo, It'll be 100mg ED. But I prefer Mast over Primo any day.

100 - 175mg/ed is primo's optimal dose IMO.

I do 100mg of Mast ED on all cylcles now. I prefer DP over Primo anyday.

Replace the primo with some tren... which ester you got? Im assuming ace?

Yes, Ace. Always Ace.

Something like this:

1-6 tbol @ 60mg ED
1-14 sust @ 750mg PW
1-13 EQ @ 600mg PW
10 - 16 Tren-A @ 50 - 75mg/ed
10-16.5 var 60mg ed

^^ Much better synergy in a stack like that, rather then with a low dose of primo.

^^TY for the input.

The best cycles are similar.... Test/DHT-derivative/19-nor. And then throw in the option of an oral kicker. Tren/var work well together.

BTW, I thought you said you never run cycles without mast? what gives?

My goals have changed hence what I've stated earlier. My experience with both compounds at reasonable dosages has had me favor Mast over Primo.

Hope that helps.

-VM

Thanks.

[HawaiianPride.]

BTW, this was a cycle I put together back in 09.. so with that being said my goals and dramatically changed due to trying out different compounds.

[D7M]

I would personally drop the LR3.

Waste of money, and you could get the same results with a much cheaper GDA.

Otherwise, I agree with VM.

Looks like a fun cycle, good luck.

Forgot to ask: what's you HCG schedule going to be like?

[HawaiianPride.]

250iu E3D last 6 weeks up until pre-PCT or if atrophy occurs earlier.

Yes this plan was formulated last year. I've had plenty of time to research which peptides would yield better results..

[AlphaMaleDawg]

lol at everyone commenting as if you haven't said 5 times already that you aren't running this cycle anymore

[HawaiianPride.]

Yeah, not sure why the first guy brought up an old thread but oh well. It's always good to hear what others have to say.

[marcus300]

I would personally drop the LR3.

Waste of money, and you could get the same results with a much cheaper GDA.

Otherwise, I agree with VM.

Looks like a fun cycle, good luck.

Forgot to ask: what's you HCG schedule going to be like?

I agree with the LR3 but would have to dissagree about VM cycle,

Why would someone bump a old thread