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[yeahbuddy289]

6 ft 190lbs 21 years old. I have been working out for 6 years now and have decided to try a cycle of dbol. I am taking two 20mg pills a day before working out and I am also taking milk thistle for my liver and doing 30 minutes of cardio three times a week for my heart. I have completely cut out fast food and am drinking about a gallon of water a day. I plan on taking novalex at some point too. When should I start that and how long should i be on it? Also is 20mg enough? Its been four days now and ive gained no weight. And how long should I be on the dbol? I was thinking maybe 4 weeks. Does it sound like im doing this right? I want to take care of my self so there are no really harmful side effects but I also want to get big.

[marcus300]

Stop taking dbol because your not ready for it, it isnt a wise choice for a first cycle and your to young, you could damage your natural test levels.

[marcus300]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ids&highlight=

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-a-first-cycle

[sigman roid]

What Marcus said^^^^^

[MBMETC]

if you were so concerned with your health you would have asked all these questions first and done enough research to know this was not a good idea. no offence but its the truth listen to Marcus and stop your cycle.

[yeahbuddy289]

well I looked on this website and it said 18 or older? But I guess im going to stop. How old is the ideal age to start using dbol?

[DCannon]

18 and older to use this website, NOT steroids!!

[SlimmerMe]

well I looked on this website and it said 18 or older? But I guess im going to stop. How old is the ideal age to start using dbol?

To avoid premature Andropause, ED, sterililty...After your hormones have peaked and then you need that extra push to take it further...mid-20's from what I have read.

[yeahbuddy289]

Instead of just throwing some drugs and dosages at you, I´m going to do something a bit different. First I´m going to ask you some questions. If you answer  no to any of them, then you´re probably not ready to use anabolic steroids.

* Are you a male over eighteen years old?
* Have you been training for at least two or three years seriously?
* Can you devote at least half a year to working out consistently?
* Can you be sure you can get real steroids?
http://www.steroid.com/novicecycle1.php

[yeahbuddy289]

Do you really think 20mg a day for four weeks is enough to possibly cause permanent damage? Im just disappointed I was really looking forward to trying this stuff. I assume dbol doesnt have a four year shelf life for storage? lol

[SlimmerMe]

Do you really think 20mg a day for four weeks is enough to possibly cause permanent damage? Im just disappointed I was really looking forward to trying this stuff. I assume dbol doesnt have a four year shelf life for storage? lol

Dbol then Nolvadex as mentioned in OP...then what? Once you start.. it is never ending...please listen to Marcus in above post.

[spoken_truth]

Do you really think 20mg a day for four weeks is enough to possibly cause permanent damage? Im just disappointed I was really looking forward to trying this stuff. I assume dbol doesnt have a four year shelf life for storage? lol

regardless of whether everything was in check...including diet, and your age was ideal...dbol alone is never a good cycle.

[yeahbuddy289]

regardless of whether everything was in check...including diet, and your age was ideal...dbol alone is never a good cycle.

I have always heard this. I think I read that you have to stack with test. because dbol brings down your natural test. levels. Am I right or whats the reasoning behind it?

[sigman roid]

Doing dbol on its own will shut your natural test production down and you will be running on empty,All you will gain from a dbol only cycle is water retention which you will lose once the cycle has finished.

[-Ender-]

Doing dbol on its own will shut your natural test production down and you will be running on empty,All you will gain from a dbol only cycle is water retention which you will lose once the cycle has finished.

^^^what sigman said x2

[MBMETC]

d-bol is commenly used as a kick start aas, it will jump start your system and give you quick results while you wait for other aas ( often used test) kick in. The gains are mostly water and will pretty much disappear in weeks 5-6 with the idea that your test will be working in full swing to pick up where the d-bol left off.

[SlimmerMe]

OP: are you going to listen to Marcus?

[yeahbuddy289]

OP: are you going to listen to Marcus?

I guess so. I was really excited to try this but its not really worth ****ing myself up. Im just bummed all those pills are going to waste now lol.

[SlimmerMe]

I guess so. I was really excited to try this but its not really worth ****ing myself up. Im just bummed all those pills are going to waste now lol.

GOOD for you!!! Not a waste..not at all. Prevention.
Not staying natural would be a waste..flaunt it while you got it!!!.
Good decision and thanks for sharing your decision. Now...what about starting a thread where you post your diet and get very specific help as to your goals.

[yeahbuddy289]

Yeah I could do that. I've been at a platue for like 2 years now its frustrating lol. Even though im eating and lifting right I cant seem to make any gains.

[SlimmerMe]

Yeah I could do that. I've been at a platue for like 2 years now its frustrating lol. Even though im eating and lifting right I cant seem to make any gains.

Please do and I will tell you why: if just one thing helps it is worth it. For example..I have the opposite problem you have. I want to shed some lbs. The more I read here, the more it sinks in. It is the little things that add up or down. Ex: I now make sure I do not give my body one minute to store fat...not one minute. So I eat every 3 hours. And my metabolism has started to kick back in. So..go for it!

[tjax03]

Do you really think 20mg a day for four weeks is enough to possibly cause permanent damage? Im just disappointed I was really looking forward to trying this stuff. I assume dbol doesnt have a four year shelf life for storage? lol

If they are solid pills, then they probably will be fine to take five years from now. However, if you don't think you have the willpower to hold off on taking them until you are old enough and have enough training under your belt, then by all means toss them in the trash. Dbol isn't too expensive so you aren't wasting too much cash.

[powerws]

How old is the ideal age to start using dbol?

I would say at least 24-25 to start a test only cycle! You are still producing great test levels, or you should be. If you really want to do it right, like get big and most importantly, keep the gains you work so hard for, Establish a base line of great nutrition by way of diet. Diet is 80-85 % of it all. Get a blood test to see where your natural test levels are, then judge accordingly. To get big it's a must to start with a good foundation.

[powerws]

Oh good foundation of knowledge and to do that, read read read! Good luck and welcome to the boards.

[SlimmerMe]

I would say at least 24-25 to start a test only cycle! You are still producing great test levels, or you should be. If you really want to do it right, like get big and most importantly, keep the gains you work so hard for, Establish a base line of great nutrition by way of diet. Diet is 80-85 % of it all. Get a blood test to see where your natural test levels are, then judge accordingly. To get big it's a must to start with a good foundation.

xxx2..very well said and so true.

[yeahbuddy289]

Thanks guys... im puttin the dbol away. I spent a lot of money on it so im gonna store it. Whats the best way to go about it? I have them in zip lock bags now should I get actual pill bottles so they keep longer? If and when I do decide to use these again it will be when im older and have some type of test. Until then its gonna be a lot of eating a lot of training and a lot of sleeping. I have to say I feel a lot better not taking it... that stuff was making my balls hurt which I thought was kind of weird...Also how do I go about gettin my test. levels checked by a doctor? Just ask for it and make an appointment? lol

[EatingMyWheaties]

Ask your doctor if your test may be low... tell him either option A- the truth that you started a cycle and found out it could have negative effects and stopped and jsut want to make sure things are in check or you can Option B- tell him a lie about your sex drive being down and you want to know if your "lack of energy and low sex drive could be related to low test levels"

[SlimmerMe]

Thanks guys... im puttin the dbol away. I spent a lot of money on it so im gonna store it. Whats the best way to go about it? I have them in zip lock bags now should I get actual pill bottles so they keep longer? If and when I do decide to use these again it will be when im older and have some type of test. Until then its gonna be a lot of eating a lot of training and a lot of sleeping. I have to say I feel a lot better not taking it... that stuff was making my balls hurt which I thought was kind of weird...Also how do I go about gettin my test. levels checked by a doctor? Just ask for it and make an appointment? lol

either w/doc..or online..private md labs dot com...or life extension magazine....both have online BW test available...

AND I AM SO HAPPY YOU are going to store your dbol!

[yeahbuddy289]

lol thanks slimmer me and everyone else. So you guys really think that stuff will stay good till I am old enough to take it?