Low dose of AAS in addition to TRT

[valencia1]

I have been on TRT for about 2 years at ~120 mg test cyp EW with great results. About a year ago I added peptides to the mix and got some very nice improvements in lean mass and strength. I have hit a plateau in the gym and want to add a little size and strength. I experimented with increasing test amount but did not like the results.

I am considering adding a low dose of Equipoise and Masteron and want to know if anyone has an educated opinion on what results I can expect. I don't want to do a full-blown cycle but want to see slow steady growth.

51 years, 5.10, 170lbs.

[valencia1]

BTW, another option I am considering instead of the EQ/Mast is to include some HGH to get the GHRH, GHRP, GH synergy. Up to this point I have only used the peptides to increase GH but I have a reliable source for GH now.

[arizona32]

Several of the members have used other AAS. Most report good results. Personally, haven't tried any, but am interested in trying deca for some joint problems.
Which peptides did you use? What results did you get from the peptides? What happened with the additional testosterone that you didn't like? Sorry asking more questions than answering.
Thanks.

[valencia1]

I have used a lot of peptides including GHRP2 and 6, CJC1295, Sermorelin, IGF, MGF. I have settled on CJC1295 and GHRP6. Higher doses of test made me feel bloated and caused the need for anti estrogens which I don't care for.

[arizona32]

What is CJC1295, in what ways was it beneficial?

[valencia1]

Also, I didn't see any real gains from the higher doses of test, (150 to 200mg EW). Again, I don't want to go to a cycle, rather a weekly dose of HRT. I am on this for life after all.

[zaggahamma]

a lot of guys on trt will run a lil deca for some nice lbm with their trt.....i agree with you...never see much from just bumping up the test but did see a nice boost when i added 200mg of deca....let us know what you end up running and post some results....i'm a lil curious about the peptides and your gains could you give a lil example of what exact gains you saw from those and what exactly are peptides and their availability...always learnin here...

hey subnet!

[diesel2030]

What were your gains on peptides CRJ1295 and ghrp-6..I am strongly considering these peptides...what did you see from these peptides?

[valencia1]

a lot of guys on trt will run a lil deca for some nice lbm with their trt.....i agree with you...never see much from just bumping up the test but did see a nice boost when i added 200mg of deca....let us know what you end up running and post some results....i'm a lil curious about the peptides and your gains could you give a lil example of what exact gains you saw from those and what exactly are peptides and their availability...always learnin here...

hey subnet!

I will have the EQ in a few days and will let you know my results after I have a little time to experiment. The peptides cause your body to produce more of your natural growth hormone. The benefits I experienced have been improved skin quality, reduction in belly fat and improved muscle tone. The changes are subtle and occur over time as you would expect with GH. It is something you just have to feel for yourself. From my reading it seems that the combination of Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide, (GHRP-6), and Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone, (CJC-1295 or one of the variations), bring about a large but temporary dump of GH into the body. I have been pinning twice daily morning and before bed, about 100mcg each.

I also have experimented with IGF 1 LR3 and MGF pinned post workout IM in the muscle just worked. I swear this worked well to bulk up the muscle but the sides have scared me off for now.

Go over to the peptide forum and you will get tons of info.

Good Luck

[diesel2030]

Thanks, good info....I wasn't aware we had a peptide forum...

[zaggahamma]

Thanks valencia good luck as well...diesel i wasnt aware either...get a little tunnel vision sometimes

[jlguitar]

The only thing you have to worry about with the EQ is your red blood cell count and hemoglobin going up to high,you will have to keep an eye on that but on the plus side EQ is good for lean muscle mass and the collagen synthesis is good for your joints and skin.

[Vettester]

Good luck on this Valencia, I really want to hear about your results, as I've never had any experiences with that compound. I've ran a Anavar cycle, which is also something you might keep in consideration for down the road.

[Vettester]

The only thing you have to worry about with the EQ is your red blood cell count and hemoglobin going up to high,you will have to keep an eye on that but on the plus side EQ is good for lean muscle mass and the collagen synthesis is good for your joints and skin.

Definitely correct, which is one main reason I suggest everyone donates blood on a regular basis.

[SlimmerMe]

What were your gains on peptides CRJ1295 and ghrp-6..I am strongly considering these peptides...what did you see from these peptides?

From what I understand, I am pretty certain ghrp-6 will really increase your appetite...

Thanks, good info....I wasn't aware we had a peptide forum...

it is the HGH forum

Thanks valencia good luck as well...diesel i wasnt aware either...get a little tunnel vision sometimes

yep...the hgh forum....

[talstar]

I have tried all three this year(var, deca, eq), var I liked the best followed by deca. Eq made my bp go up as has been posted already and I didn't get any noticeable gains.

[zaggahamma]

so are peptides expensive and illegal or required rx?

[valencia1]

so are peptides expensive and illegal or required rx?

See the AR-R site for some info and prices or there are many other providers with different price points. I have used 3 or 4 sellers with no bad experiences. Peptides are sold legally as research chemicals, not for human consumption. ;-)

http://aminooutpost.com/GROWTH-FACTO...PTIDES_c10.htm

[valencia1]

Good luck on this Valencia, I really want to hear about your results, as I've never had any experiences with that compound. I've ran a Anavar cycle, which is also something you might keep in consideration for down the road.

Thanks Vette - I will post results here when I have enough info. I expect get the EQ in a few days. Then I plan to try Masteron either stacked with Test and EQ or just Test depending on how things go.

I considered Anavar but decided to avoid orals due to potential for liver toxicity. I have high iron issues which stress my liver already. I give blood frequently to reduce iron levels so the boosted hemoglobin from the EQ should be kept in check.

I appreciate everyone's comments.

[zaggahamma]

See the AR-R site for some info and prices or there are many other providers with different price points. I have used 3 or 4 sellers with no bad experiences. Peptides are sold legally as research chemicals, not for human consumption. ;-)

http://aminooutpost.com/GROWTH-FACTO...PTIDES_c10.htm

preciate