Pleasse help! any vets

[getfit28]

In Aug 2010 I got don running my 5 cycle that consisted tren and test e (first time doing tren) for 12 weeks.. My pct consisted of nolva and clomid. I was suppose to run HCG but never did and now my libido is down and erection is not the same or sometimes I will not even get one... Please advise what I can do or how long this can last till I recover. Should I
1 get HCG and do ti now and my get on some cialas or viagra in the mean time
2 jump on a test cycle and run pct thorough with HCG
3 give it time and just take some over the counter test booster like tribulis???
Please help, where are the vets with knowledge

[upperhandy]

what was your cycle like (dosages)?
what was your pct like (dosage, and length)?

#2 is a horrible idea

[MrGreen]

IMO you should get on some HCG and clomid. It may take months to recover then again there is always the chance you wont no one can say for sure. You will need to take clomid for a while until you can see a change or until you can get your blood work and see what your results are showing.

How old are you?

[getfit28]

I'm 31 and my cycl was for 12 weeks
600mg a week
Tren A 75mg eod but then on about the 6th week I began taking the tren 25 ed.
At the same time I started getting gyno so I jumped on some letro and took care of that quick
How o you all suggest I run HCG as I've never ran it?
Clomid should I run at the regular does you normally do on pct?
Honestly I was thinking of jumping on a test cycle and do a proper pct with HCG but then again I don't want to mess my self up.

[MrGreen]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...dated-08-12-09)

Check out that thread for advice on PCT as he is way more knowledgeable then I am. That being said.....

Most people tend to run it around 250iu twice a week sometimes 3x a week. I would be aggreesive with the clomid and run it in high mgs for atleast 2 or 3 weeks hoping I would see a change in my libdo. As always blood work would be the best idea to see how you are responding. Personally I would start it at like 80-100mg ed for the first few weeks and see what happens along with the HCG at 250 iu 3x a week.

Again there are more knowledgeable people on this board who can advise you better or confirm. This should be a pretty good idea of what you need.

[MrGreen]

Oh do not jump on another test cycle as that is not fixing the problem at all! All that would do is make it worse and mask the real issue. Would not be wise at all in this stage of the game as you do not know what stage your body is at. There is a chance you can recover and running another cycle could lessen that chance no matter how big or small it is. Let time take its coarse do what you can to help it correctly and wait it out.

[upperhandy]

i would nolva 20/20/20/20 clomid 50/50/50/50 and see how that does ya
HCG is normally for on cycle use but can be used to jump start things if things are bad

what dosages and compounds did you run for pct?
is the E.D. your only problem, or do you have other symptoms that make you think the PCT was not effective....?
have you had blood work done?

answer these questions and we'll see if we can't get you on track..........

[getfit28]

Thanks Mr Green,, I think I'm just going to run clomid by it self and some tribulus and hope this helps....
Any other ideas out there please fee welcome to share

[upperhandy]

you should prob blast HCG 1000ius for 3-5days

then clomid 50/50/50/25
nolva 20/20/20/10

clomid alone will prob also work, but you said you did one PCT with no good results, so you might want to try something a little stronger

[getfit28]

Yes, bu the prblem is that I will not have the HCG in hand till like a Month or so..... I feel like I'm recovering but very slow.. I'm hoping that a high dosage of clomid and some tribulis will help.... Would it be a bad idea i I take some cialis or viagra for the time being every now and then? I still get an errection but not as before and takes me a long time...

[upperhandy]

anything to tide you over would prob be okay...
don't go overboard with the clomid

You never answered my previous question.... what was your previous PCT protocol? (compound, dosages ,and length)

[getfit28]

Pct... was crappy I'm not giong to lie... Nolva 60/40/20/10.. Clomid 150 day 1... 100 6 days... 50 week 2..... Clomid was not ran long enough or correctly becuase I did not have enough and truthfully this was my first time using clomid as I heard that lots off side affect on clomid but I did not have any so I should me ok to use clomid for futre pct's... This was my first hard core cycle and never again willl mess up on my pct.... I will use noval, clomid and HCG when on hard core cycles like the one I took.... ... So, do you think I should still order the HCG even though it will take long before I get it... Can I start the clomid and maybe take some viagra when necessary???? Thanks bro

[upperhandy]

well... if possible, i would get some blood work done to check your test and est levels.... maybe nothing is too bad.

if not.... i would try 1 month of clomid
week 1 50mg/day
week 2 same
week 3 same
week 4 25 mg/day

in the mean time i would order the HCG and Nolva to have on hand in case this clomid is not enough

go ahead and use viagra when necessary

[upperhandy]

I feel like I'm recovering but very slow.

if you're feeling recovered .... no need for the clomid....of course you feel slow, you're no longer a juiced up superman, LOL

if you just have a bit of erection/sexual problems.... give it a week or two and see if it doesn't sort itself out....

the last thing you want to do is medicate unnecessarily