Clenbuterol catabolic?

[delta1111]

Has anyone ever found Clenbuterol tablet to be catabolic even when stacked with other steroids? Using clen at 60mcg per day on the 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off protocol.

[SlimJoe]

sorry i cannot answer your q i start a clen/t3 cycle tommorow i no this wont help but i love clen real good if used properley

[PistolStarta]

I dont think it can actually cause catabolism over your steroids but it can flatten you out off cycle. Youre on cycle and whats happening then?

[delta1111]

I dont think it can actually cause catabolism over your steroids but it can flatten you out off cycle. Youre on cycle and whats happening then?

What's happenning is, I take upper arm measurements every month, always under the same conditions, to measure progress.
I have taken measurements today as usual, first unflexed then flexed and I have lost about 1cm from both measurements, on both arms. I'm so pissed off! My diet has been better than ever and i'm getting more protien than ever before.
I cannot think off anything else that could have caused this as this is the only new substance I have introduced, I have definately lost fat over the last 4 weeks but I didn't think it would be at the expense of muscle aswell.

[PistolStarta]

if youve lost fat why wouldnt you lose it on your arm as well? go by the mirror.

[delta1111]

if youve lost fat why wouldnt you lose it on your arm as well? go by the mirror.

Yes this is true, but my arms were already pretty lean before using clen (not really any fat to lose there) which makes me think I have lost lean tissue.

[yungone501]

i can only think of two reasons: muscle is becoming more dense (or leaner) as previously mentioned or your diet is not where it should be. Are using clen in conjunction with gear?

[delta1111]

i can only think of two reasons: muscle is becoming more dense (or leaner) as previously mentioned or your diet is not where it should be. Are using clen in conjunction with gear?

Yes Currently stacking with a Tren, Mast, Test blend called "1rip". It's from the UK so you may not have heard of it. Dosage works out at about 350mg Tren pw, 400mg Mast pw and 650 Test pw.
I have to keep Test at a reasonable level coz if I go to high, my sex drive goes through the roof and I can't think of anything else. As mentioned in my earlier post, The Clen is run 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off at 60mcg per day.

[yungone501]

Tren has the ability add/maintain weight even in a calorie deficit situation. I believe you may be leaning out bro. Its difficult to see this when look at your arms/body everyday. Best judges are those you see infrequently...

[delta1111]

Tren has the ability add/maintain weight even in a calorie deficit situation. I believe you may be leaning out bro. Its difficult to see this when look at your arms/body everyday. Best judges are those you see infrequently...

Yes and this is why I measure once per month. This is the first time in about 2 years of keeping a record that i've reduced in size.
What do you mean by leaning out? And is this done without losing muscle mass??
Thanks my friend.

[yungone501]

Yes and this is why I measure once per month. This is the first time in about 2 years of keeping a record that i've reduced in size.
What do you mean by leaning out? And is this done without losing muscle mass??
Thanks my friend.

Leaning out: decreasing the amount of fat on the body or in a muscle. And yes, especially with tren, this can effectively be done without losing muscle. This why it is an ideal drug for pre-comp.

[delta1111]

Leaning out: decreasing the amount of fat on the body or in a muscle. And yes, especially with tren, this can effectively be done without losing muscle. This why it is an ideal drug for pre-comp.

Ah I see. So when you refer to my individual case of "leaning out", from what i've described, would you say I have lost muscle mass or not?

[yungone501]

Okay, lets say your arm is 90% muscle and 10% fat (for simplicity sake). While cycling you, you may lose the 10% fat but increase the muscle by 15%, you arm will still be the SAME size (because fat takes up more volume than muscle). L
In other words you losing fat but gaining muscle at the same time so nothing changes in terms of overall size.

[yungone501]

Okay, lets say your arm is 90% muscle and 10% fat (for simplicity sake). While cycling you, you may lose the 10% fat but increase the muscle by 15%, you arm will still be the SAME size (because fat takes up more volume than muscle). L
In other words you losing fat but gaining muscle at the same time so nothing changes in terms of overall size.

[Igifuno]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...cle-growth.htm

[delta1111]

http://www.mesomorphosis.com/article...cle-growth.htm

Very interesting thankyou.