Alright Guys, Lets Get Some Knowledge In Me

[MeNaCe305]

Well after considerable thinking I have decided at the ripe old age of 23 I will NOT be doing AAS.
I was considering my first cycle to start at the end of this month to be Test-Cyp ran with HCG and Nova on hand while doing clomid and nova as my pct. I did my research and advised myself against it, but im not here for congrats.

I need some advice, I do want to some fat loss and am looking for immediate results as most of us are. I have come to the conclusion that Clen is what I'm steering towards along with diet and exercise of course.

My only question is I haven't found a set dosage on the forum I should follow along with the days and time of said dosage.

My stats (since I know you guys want them):
Age:23
Height: 5' 9 or 10"
Weight: 195-200lbs

I used to take something along the lines of this when I wrestled but I did it sparingly and it wasn't this exact drug so I would love some help. Thanks.

[SlimmerMe]

Am I allowed to say I am happy you are not going to do AAS? hope so.....

[FuzzyPeaches o.O]

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?23808

[MeNaCe305]

slimmer me: haha why because I'm the first to say I know better? or am I clueless with my suggested cycle?
fuzzy: thanks dude, guess my googling skills arent up to par.

[SlimmerMe]

slimmer me: haha why because I'm the first to say I know better? or am I clueless with my suggested cycle?
fuzzy: thanks dude, guess my googling skills arent up to par.

this! because just waiting another couple years will do wonders as you max out your own natural hormones which you are LOADED with right now!

[MeNaCe305]

Actually its all the recent "limp dick" stories from younger users being posted... terrifies me haha as I love sex. I'm not as bad as I make myself seem in terms of physical appearance (although genetics deemed me unfit to have hair on my head [thanks]). I'd rather jump on Clen for fat loss while working on slight muscle and strength gains. My main goal is fat loss.... I'm just curious what the perfect diet for being on clen would be.

[SlimmerMe]

Actually its all the recent "limp dick" stories from younger users being posted... terrifies me haha as I love sex. I'm not as bad as I make myself seem in terms of physical appearance (although genetics deemed me unfit to have hair on my head [thanks]). I'd rather jump on Clen for fat loss while working on slight muscle and strength gains. My main goal is fat loss.... I'm just curious what the perfect diet for being on clen would be.

best bet then would be to start a new thread in the "Diet Question" forum and the guys there will get you set up

[songdog]

That was a good choice bro.You are young.You got time on your side.And yes wat SlimmerMe said.Hit the Diet section.They will set you up.Good luck bro.

[MeNaCe305]

Now whats funny is getting it; gear is easy to acquire for me...this, not so much. Posted in the diet section as per some instructions.

[flexandex]

Clen:

Day1 20
Day2 40
Day3 60
Day4 80
Day5 100
Day6 100
Day7 100
Day8 100
Day9 100
Day10 100
Day11 100
Day12 100
Day13 100
Day14 100

14 days off, then repeat cycle. For subsequent cycles feel free to start at 20, jump to 60, or start at 40 and go to 60 etc. Gauge how your body responds and up the dose to 100 without getting too many sides

Edit: Being on clen doesn't change basic dieting etiquette, wether you are carb cycling / low carb etc. Just hit your macros, get your micros and phytochemicals and you're G2G. You'll love clen, its like 30mins of cardio in the morning.. every morning, whilst you sleep

[MeNaCe305]

Haven't seen anywhere someone posting the hour of the day at which to take, im aware it comes in 20mg tabs but im curious how people take it throughout the day since its suggested to be taken before 4pm

[mg0922]

DO you even have a diet set up Menac? IF so can you post it. Before you start anything i recommend you have a disiplined diet that you can follow without even being on anything.

[MeNaCe305]

I posted in the diet section to get a stable diet but have been reading up on Gbrices thread. I will prob. go based on his diet which is as follows:

5am: MEAL 1 - PRE WORKOUT
1 extra large egg, 4 extra large whites - 27/0/5/160
1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20

TOTAL: 32/31/7.5/320

WORKOUT followed by 1 hour of cardio

8am: MEAL 2 - POST WORKOUT
1 Scoop Myofusion - 25/5/3/160
1 Premier Protein Shake - 30/5/3/160
1 cup oats - 10/52/5/280

TOTAL: 65/60/10/600

10am: MEAL 3
6oz broiled tilapia - 35/0/3/165
3/4 cup brown rice - 3/22/1/110
3/4 cup black and red beans - 5/18/1/105

TOTAL: 43/40/4.5/380

1pm: MEAL 4
5oz chicken breast - 34/0/2/140
1/2 cup oats - 5/26/2.5/140
1/4 cup blueberries - 0/5/0/20
2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10

TOTAL: 40/33/4/310

4pm: MEAL 5
4oz 93/7 lean ground beef - 23/0/9/180
1oz (dry) Barilla Plus Multigrain Pasta - 5/20/1/105

TOTAL: 30/20/10/285

7pm: MEAL 6
2oz Flank Steak - 15/0/6/120
1 extra large whole egg - 7/0/5/80
3 extra large egg whites - 15/0/0/60
2 cups baby spinach - 1.5/1.5/0/10
2 Fish Oils - 0/2/0/20

39/1.5/13/290

10pm: MEAL 7
1 scoop ON Casein - 24/3/1/120
1 tbsp natty PB - 4/3/8/105
2 Fish Oils - 0/0/2/20

TOTAL: 28/6/11/245


DAILY TOTAL: 271/195/62/2425





I will adjust to my liking and add more calories somewhere in there but i like the basic idea.

[flexandex]

yeah i doubt you will actually follow a diet like that, adjust it and hit those macros as best you can and you'll do well.

Also, theres no need to get clen from tablets anymore

http://www.ar-r.com/featured-product...200mcg-ml.html this is a far cheaper and easier way to fufill all your clen desires.
They are the board sponser and delivery on time with exactly what you ordered. Ive had 3 orders from them

[number twelve]

youll find that the only way youll know your sweet spot dose is after you take it. i only needed 20 mcg for the first 10 days and i dropped 8 lbs the first 3 days. it was pretty brutal, the cramping and the shakes were my most pronounced sides, also got headaches. but i was absolutely shredded! i was a bit heavier than you at the time i took it too. not advising against it at all, just ease yourself in to the dose

[MeNaCe305]

i think following the doses provided in the link earlier in the post will best me. I'm happy i fell into this since it doesnt take muscle mass but fat and i guess ill be ordering from Ar-r

[flexandex]

shakes/cramps on 20mcg..??

i went up to 140 with 2g taurine per day :Z

[MeNaCe305]

^^^
what time of the day did you take it?

[flexandex]

use it in the morning, what i like to do is set my alarm 20mins before i have to get up.

i take my clen and go back to sleep to doze, the clen will kick in and you'll be up and rearing to go without that horrible morning feeling .

if you want some scientific backround on clen, its whats known as a 'repartitioning agent' and basically mimics adrenalin by hitting 1 out of 4 beta-2 receptors. thats why you get the shakes/headaches at higher dosages.
the more you know!

[number twelve]

yeah i am sensitive to it apparently. the cramps were so bad i would need my girl to massage my hamstrings with icy hot before i went to the gym. it was retarded. hydration was not an issue either. everyone has their own tolerance i guess

hope my experience will help. good luck

[MeNaCe305]

Just got the clen last night and started using it today.... Started at like 40mcg by mistake (5:45am, my hand slipped with the plunger) so the shakes and headache was a quick onset...my hand wont stop moving but im wide awake at work!