a good test booster to run during pct? NEED INFO ASAP CYCLE ALMOST OVER

[Hart714]

Alright, so whats a good test booster I need to order it today. I was thinking A-HD I saw it at vitamin shop its a anti estrogen and anti aromatase supposed to boost levels up 299% some bs like that I'm also purchase nolvadex from arr and I'm taking my pct that came with cycle its called armedexin

Arime Dexin uses the 3.17 ketoetiochol-Triene compound plus more to ensure maximum testosterone boosting and unmatchable estrogen supression. Arime Dexin also will ensure Liver Support with the addition of their Liver Support/Enzymes Complex.

ArimeDexin
Supplement Facts:

Serving Size: 1 Capsule
Servings Per Container: 60

Ingredients:

Testosterone Booster Complex:

Maca 100mg
Epimedium 50mg
Eurycoma Longfolia 100mg
Avena Sativa 100mg
2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl-5a-
Androstane-17b-Ol 5mg
3,17 Keto-etiochol-Triene 10mg
Chrysine 10mg

Liver Support/Enzymes:

N-Acetyl Cytesine 50mg
Milk Thistle

Maybe I don't need a test booster since this is already one? Im so confused please help I'm running nolvadex drops with this please help me out I want to keep gains as much as possible thank you

[RaZr]

Don't use that! It contains another steroid called epistane which will supress your test still. Nolvadex and maybe sometorem or clomd is all you need

[Hart714]

its the same company as my cycle and is recommended why would they recommend something if it will supress my test? ahh so confused

[RaZr]

Because they want your money, the 2a, 3a-epithio is a 17a steroid

[smashingbox]

Dude give DAA (d-aspartic acid) a go, a study done in Italy which has been published in a science journal clearly showed an increase of 30-40% of natural test production with a 3g/day dosage... it is relatively cheap at $20/100g or 1 month supply. I mix with orange juice, makes it tasty. I found that when I use it I am hornier and have more/harder stiffs and my loads are a bit bigger.

I can link to study if needed.

[marcus300]

You shouldn't be cycling at your age, this place is like play ground.

[Hart714]

I ran daa before it was nice thats what basically made me do ph Im ending my cycle I'm just gonna take this pct with nolvadex we will see what happens I know I shouldn't be running phs/roids but it is what it is I just like to get advice so I won't do something wrong you live and learn thanks guys

[Hart714]

oh and its a real low dose 5mg versus my cycle is 30mg of superdrol 30mg of halodrol and 30mg of max lmg so 5mg is really low I don't see how it can supress my test Got to find out someway I used to shoot up heroin and tweak in one seringe I think Ill survive this one

[Flier]

Dude give DAA (d-aspartic acid) a go, a study done in Italy which has been published in a science journal clearly showed an increase of 30-40% of natural test production with a 3g/day dosage... it is relatively cheap at $20/100g or 1 month supply. I mix with orange juice, makes it tasty. I found that when I use it I am hornier and have more/harder stiffs and my loads are a bit bigger.

I can link to study if needed.

Interesting.
Gonna read more about it.
Found so far, it must be taken with an AI, as it causes high Arometase levels.

[smashingbox]

Arometase... where did you read this? Do you mean it aromatizes to estrogen, that would require an AI... but I never found a need for it, I didn't get any bloat or sore/itchy/swollen nips, low libido or anything....

[Flier]

I guess I can´t post links, but here is an excerpt..


Don't use a D-Aspartic Acid supplement until you read this article, you could be actually doing more harm than good! D-Aspartic Acid is all the rage right now in sports supplements. it has the potential to boost testosterone via multiple pathways, but there is a hidden danger that ALL people need to know about when using this popular bodybuilding product. That danger is from increased estrogen production via aromatase.

D-Aspartic Acid and it's analogs D-Sodium-Asparate and N-Methyl-D-Aspartic Acid are becoming very popular with bodybuilders looking to boost their testosterone to the very highest levels. However this has a very ugly side effect that could potentially make this innocent supplement the devil in disguise. It works by increasing something called steroidogenic acute regulatory (StAR) protein, which is a critical enzyme in the production of testosterone. It is found in the testes and is a rate limiting step in the creation of testosterone. Increasing the activity of StAR is one of the main ways that DAA helps the body make more testosterone and it was shown in human studies that D-Aspartic Acid can give roughly a 30% increase in testosterone production! This is amazing for a completely natural product, but that boost in testosterone has one downside that may actually be making your situation worse! The good news is that if reversed, it could actually make the conversion to testosterone even higher and could boost your testosterone levels above 30%!

Aromatase is a nasty enzyme that is responsible for converting testosterone to estrogen in the body. It is what robs the bodybuilder of the robust effects of testosterone and changes the balance of your hormones. As we age, we produce even more aromatase and that is often why you see men getting fat, soft and flabby as they get older. Aromatase and it's end product estrogen are the enemy of any man wanting to keep that rock hard physique and feel his best! Unfortunately it seems that the "holy grail" of supplements D-Aspartic Acid may actually cause the body to produce more aromatase, which is something you definitely don't want! Making all of that extra testosterone isn't going to do you much good if a large part of it converts to estrogen in the body, so you want to stop that from happening! It has been shown in the literature that D-Aspartic Acid can increase testicular aromatase levels, making your testosterone to estrogen ratio sub par (1,2,3) which can certainly be an issue for the bodybuilder. Luckily, you can add in some very potent aromatase inhibitors that will stop the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by binding and locking up aromatase! You will want to use a combination of a competitive inhibitor of aromatase and a suicide inhibitor of aromatase to maximize the benefits of D-Aspartic Acid!

[jimmyinkedup]

The daa write up is by a company trying to sell its AI supplement. What is demonstrated by daa is a proportional increase in estrogen , progesterone and prolcatin. Not a bad thing. As everyone knows these hormones are not detrimental till present in levels where adverse sides occur. In fact these hormones can be beneficial. Estrogen regulates cholesterol and other functions. Progesterone is a precursor for test and other adrenal hormones. It also prevents conversion of test to dht. Prolactin increases the response of leydig cells to LH.
SO yes daa increases other hormones besides test..as any substance that truly raises test would. There is a synergy amoung these hormones that , in the abscence of adverse sides, should be left alone. Higher test and lower estrogen doesnt = more gains. In this case the synergy of all these hormones is prob, to a certain extent, what helps daa to be effective . Dont compare these levels to those achieved using exogenous steroids..its not the same. The synergy is lost when "shut down".

Now OP ...What are you doing pct for? What was your cycle? I believe any pct should include real serms....daa can be added if u want...but pct imo is NOT a supplement.

[Flier]

The daa write up is by a company trying to sell its AI supplement. What is demonstrated by daa is a proportional increase in estrogen , progesterone and prolcatin. Not a bad thing. As everyone knows these hormones are not detrimental till present in levels where adverse sides occur. In fact these hormones can be beneficial. Estrogen regulates cholesterol and other functions. Progesterone is a precursor for test and other adrenal hormones. It also prevents conversion of test to dht. Prolactin increases the response of leydig cells to LH.
SO yes daa increases other hormones besides test..as any substance that truly raises test would. There is a synergy amoung these hormones that , in the abscence of adverse sides, should be left alone. Higher test and lower estrogen doesnt = more gains. In this case the synergy of all these hormones is prob, to a certain extent, what helps daa to be effective . Dont compare these levels to those achieved using exogenous steroids..its not the same. The synergy is lost when "shut down".

Now OP ...What are you doing pct for? What was your cycle? I believe any pct should include real serms....daa can be added if u want...but pct imo is NOT a supplement.

Interesting!
So what you´re saying is, DAA is a pretty harmless supp. that seems to increase test in a natural manner, not inhibiting or desensitizing the HPTA.
Why wouldn´t everyone try this before TRT.
And why not jump on DAA immediately after PCT?

[RaZr]

oh and its a real low dose 5mg versus my cycle is 30mg of superdrol 30mg of halodrol and 30mg of max lmg so 5mg is really low I don't see how it can supress my test Got to find out someway I used to shoot up heroin and tweak in one seringe I think Ill survive this one

Hart you are a fool, you are to young and I'm telling you it will suppress you, there is no live in learn im telling you what you need know. Take your lack of basic common sense elsewhere.

[jimmyinkedup]

Interesting!
So what you�re saying is, DAA is a pretty harmless supp. that seems to increase test in a natural manner, not inhibiting or desensitizing the HPTA.It appears this is the case yes. Def yes as far as it doesnt inhibit or desensatize hpta. As far as harmless...well its fairly new but any main concerns appear to have been addressed and it seems safe.
Why wouldn�t everyone try this before TRT.may or may not help enough in this case
And why not jump on DAA immediately after PCT?or even during is fine imo

If you are going to use DAA i recommend testforce 2 by ergopharm. Pat Arnold discovered this supplement and this is his product. Its daa chelated with calcium so it dissolves better and is more stable. Also there is sarcosine added to keep receptor sensatized. all in all its the best option imo, albeit a little more expensive.
It should be said - this is merely a supplement..it should never replace pct or trt. The thing about this is - it really does increase test ...unlike the african grass clippings idiots like Anthony Roberts try to push on people. Much like most of what Patrick Arnold develops - this does what it claims. So it does have a place for some imo.

[Flier]

If you are going to use DAA i recommend testforce 2 by ergopharm. Pat Arnold discovered this supplement and this is his product. Its daa chelated with calcium so it dissolves better and is more stable. Also there is sarcosine added to keep receptor sensatized. all in all its the best option imo, albeit a little more expensive.
It should be said - this is merely a supplement..it should never replace pct or trt. The thing about this is - it really does increase test ...unlike the african grass clippings idiots like Anthony Roberts try to push on people. Much like most of what Patrick Arnold develops - this does what it claims. So it does have a place for some imo.

Cool.
Just read it is available in Italy and parts of Europe so far, so I guess not the US?

Some reviews are stating some pretty amazing results.

Merely a supp, and should never replace TRT?
If this supp will increase Test in a deficient male to acceptable levels, then I would do this or Trib, or Tongkat Ali, or whatever before TRT.

I will try your sugg. TF 2 , after my PCT. And with BW to see what results it yields.

[smashingbox]

Agreed, shouldn't replace SERMs and proper PCT, but I would say it is a nice addition to PCT to provide a small natural test boost to give you a better chance of keeping more of the gains made on cycle and avoid catabolism.

DAA is legitimate and backed by good science, not some study a supp company did, but it is limited. 30% increase is nothing compare to the levels seen with standard steroid cycles, and because it is based on increasing natural test levels it may not be much use for TRT patients if they are struggling to produce natural test... but I am only speculating on that.

I have used it, and for sure there are small noticable differences, but nothing outrageous... so don't beleive the hype of reviews suggesting amazing results.

[Hart714]

damn so should i just run my nolvadex drops?
what dosage since arr doesnt like to send instrucs lol

[smashingbox]

Jesus Christ mate have a go at the search function, or here's an idea... read one of the stickies.