I need help fast guys. Please help me out...

[F-Genetics]

I had what appeared to be some slight testicular atrophy even on 250 I.U.s HCG 3x's a wk. I am 33 by the way if that helps. That and my nipples started to itch a bit. So I started Aromasin @ 12.5mgs the first two days, and then on the third day I went up to 25mgs due to the nipples still being itchy and sensitive. I looked at what Swifto recommended in his stickies before I did adjust things.
~My question is how long does Aromasin take to kick in full force? A day, two? Is there a general rule of thumb. I have looked for one in posts but did not find it.
~Second question, should I start on Nolva 20mgs ED because my nipples are still slightly sensitive? I am on my 5th week of my cycle right now.
~Third Question, I am on Proviron right now. Should I carry that straight through PCT? Swifto in a PCT sticky recommended a Libido enhancer if I remember his terminology correctly.
I know some guys will say, research more, and I have. It seems my situation is unique with my extreme sensitivity, and the HCG not helping the boys like it should completely, and coupled with the Aromasin not kicking in enough for me. So I am trying to take the best information from what I have seen. I know I need to apply this knowledge fast to avoid further issues/ and or getting gyno.

This is what I plan to do for the rest of my cycle and into PCT:
~ Aromasin 25mgs ED
~ Proviron 50mgs ED
~ HCG 250 I.U.'s 3x's a wk (m,w,f)
~ Nolvadex 20mgs ED to the end of PCT-----I am wondering if the nolvadex is overkill?/ But after considering my sensitivity I think it necessary.
After last pin====>
~ HCG 500-1000 I.U.'s EOD (m,w,f) up until 4 days prior to start of PCT.
~ Proviron 50mgs ED straight through to the end of PCT-Libido enhancer
~ Nolvadex 20mgs ED from week 5 during cycle as mentioned above to the end of PCT.
~ Clomid 50mgs ED wk 1-4
~ Vitamin C 1gm upon waking and 1-2gm PWO (for Cortisol Levels)

Also is a liver assist good to take throughout the rest of the cycle, or is it even necessary, because I am off the dbol since the end of wk 4? I know this is a lot of information. I just am not the typical AAS user I guess. Lucky ME
I read a lot of Swifto's posts to piece this altogether and I would appreciate any help from him or other guru's in the PCT department.
I'm glad I belong to the best forum out there in this type of situation, prove me right and help a fellow iron monkey out.

[incrediblehulk]

I am also on the same but in 2nd week.Do you take Proviron to increase libido because Test E itself increases the libido.

Moreover, I think you are taking too many substances in parallel.

I also want some senior guy to advise what to take during cycle.

[Flier]

In your other thread I wrote I had the same problem with my balls, and went from 250iu E4D to EOD. That seems to do the job.
I will do this for a few more days, then back to E4D.

Re your nipples...(hmm...I´m commenting another man´s nipples...), I had itchy nipples for a couple of months after self admin. TRT and during some HCG pins, and pretty much going into my current cycle. Once on the cycle, the itch nipples went away. The only AI I take is Aromasin 10mg EOD....1/5 of the strength you are taking. In addition you are taking 2 other AI´s. Your Estro level must be completely battered. Like I said, I walked around with itch nipples for a couple of months without any other complications. During this period my Test was low, Estro high, but barely within limits.
Why proviron when the mostly recommended AI these days is Aromasin.
I don´t know Proviron, how doeas it interact with Nolva?
Aromasin works great with Nolva, and is kind on your Cholesterol.
I think your AI use is overkill, and you may hinder the effects of your AAS.
If I were you, I would trust the process, and be more patient.
Aromasin is effective for 36 hours, so EOD is plenty to maintain stability.
From what I´ve read, even 25mg EOD is high, but start there, and work yourself down to 12.5 EOD, then add 10mg Nolv if necessary.
However, as u know, Swifto is the expert here, and I would ask him, and just go with his recommendation.

[F-Genetics]

I am also on the same but in 2nd week.Do you take Proviron to increase libido because Test E itself increases the libido.

Moreover, I think you are taking too many substances in parallel.

I also want some senior guy to advise what to take during cycle.

Not necessarily so. HAve you read any of the PCT posts by Swifto. And i don't think you read what I wrote. I said what I plan to do. Meaning it has not happened yet. If you are gyno prone you have to run a little bit more than other guys to not have issues, and control estrogen.

[F-Genetics]

In your other thread I wrote I had the same problem with my balls, and went from 250iu E4D to EOD. That seems to do the job.
I will do this for a few more days, then back to E4D.

Re your nipples...(hmm...I´m commenting another man´s nipples...), I had itchy nipples for a couple of months after self admin. TRT and during some HCG pins, and pretty much going into my current cycle. Once on the cycle, the itch nipples went away. The only AI I take is Aromasin 10mg EOD....1/5 of the strength you are taking. In addition you are taking 2 other AI´s. Your Estro level must be completely battered. Like I said, I walked around with itch nipples for a couple of months without any other complications. During this period my Test was low, Estro high, but barely within limits.
Why proviron when the mostly recommended AI these days is Aromasin.
I don´t know Proviron, how doeas it interact with Nolva?
I have read quite a few posts concerning taking proviron and Nolva together on cycle in a 50/20 split. Using the Nolva as an AI mainly and the proviron to help with testosterone levels. I don't know maybe I misunderstood the posts. I also know the proviron to be a libido enhancer first hand. Plus Swifto mentions using it in PCT for libido.
Proviron binds with the androgen recpetors within your muscle cells to promote new growth and combined with testosterone it increases the number of AR's in muscle. So by taking test with Proviron you will have more free test floating around building muscle.
Aromasin works great with Nolva, and is kind on your Cholesterol.
I think your AI use is overkill, and you may hinder the effects of your AAS.
C bino says that Estrogen control does not necessarily mean you will hinder your system. With a good diet, vitamins and minerals you will be fine. But of course everyone has a different opinion.
If I were you, I would trust the process, and be more patient.
I just noticed my nipples seemed a bit more puffy than usual. I can presume some itchy nipples are still a normal thing after you have noticed you might be prone and taken measures to help control the issue. So that is why I though of adding Nolva to the Aromasin. Swifto states to keep one on hand, and if you start to see visible sides use it. I have no problem being patient, I just don't want gyno.
Aromasin is effective for 36 hours, so EOD is plenty to maintain stability.
My bad on the ED I meant to type in EOD...
From what I´ve read, even 25mg EOD is high, but start there, and work yourself down to 12.5 EOD, then add 10mg Nolv if necessary.
However, as u know, Swifto is the expert here, and I would ask him, and just go with his recommendation.

I think I am going to drop the Proviron.

[F-Genetics]

I also found this from WarMachine:
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) : Nolvadex is a SERM. It selectively binds to certain estrogen receptors, effectively blocking the estrogen and stopping unwanted sides such as gyno. It DOES NOT lower estro levels in the blood, it only blocks it from binding to certain receptors. It also helps your blood fat levels. It does not suppress LH, blocks desired estro receptors and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH. Nolva should be used during HCG therapy, at 20 mg a day, for the reason i just mentioned. Can be used during cycle if you see signs of gyno. Its mainly used to block the estrogen spike when you come off cycle, and should be used right through to the end until natural test levels are back. One drawback to consider about Nolva is that it may cause progesterone receptors to become more sensitive. This means that while using progestins such as Deca or Tren, you may become more sensetive to progestin related gyno.

Aromasin (Exemestane) : This drug is classified as a Type I Suicide AI. It binds to the aromatase enzyme and kills it. It is effective at lowering estrogen up to 85%. Once again, you have to watch out for your cholesterol levels. Used mainly for cutting when low estrogen levels are desired. Aromasin is shown to help bone density. Clinical doses are about 25mg a day, but it has been shown that as little as 2.5mg a day can be as effective.

I know I saw something similar to this post somewhere else that Swifto had posted, I just could not find it. But after finding this one, 25mgs a day was the clinical dose so I will do that or come in under it and see if I need to bump it up.
Thanks for the feedback first timer...

[Flier]

Can u guide me to where Swifto mentions Proviron/libido. I like to have me some of that libido going through PCT, as I will be on the beach of sunny FL during that depressing part of my cycle.

[Flier]

I also found this from WarMachine:
Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) : Nolvadex is a SERM. It selectively binds to certain estrogen receptors, effectively blocking the estrogen and stopping unwanted sides such as gyno. It DOES NOT lower estro levels in the blood, it only blocks it from binding to certain receptors. It also helps your blood fat levels. It does not suppress LH, blocks desired estro receptors and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH. Nolva should be used during HCG therapy, at 20 mg a day, for the reason i just mentioned. Can be used during cycle if you see signs of gyno. Its mainly used to block the estrogen spike when you come off cycle, and should be used right through to the end until natural test levels are back. One drawback to consider about Nolva is that it may cause progesterone receptors to become more sensitive. This means that while using progestins such as Deca or Tren, you may become more sensetive to progestin related gyno.

Aromasin (Exemestane) : This drug is classified as a Type I Suicide AI. It binds to the aromatase enzyme and kills it. It is effective at lowering estrogen up to 85%. Once again, you have to watch out for your cholesterol levels. Used mainly for cutting when low estrogen levels are desired. Aromasin is shown to help bone density. Clinical doses are about 25mg a day, but it has been shown that as little as 2.5mg a day can be as effective.

I know I saw something similar to this post somewhere else that Swifto had posted, I just could not find it. But after finding this one, 25mgs a day was the clinical dose so I will do that or come in under it and see if I need to bump it up.
Thanks for the feedback first timer...

"and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH"

I´ve seen this before, and I´m thinking of adding Nolv 10mg ED during the 2 weeks post last pin where I will be ramping up HCG to 500iu EOD.

[F-Genetics]

Can u guide me to where Swifto mentions Proviron/libido. I like to have me some of that libido going through PCT, as I will be on the beach of sunny FL during that depressing part of my cycle.

I just put Swifto's name in the search engine. And then I looked for anything regarding his PCT posts. I had to go though a few. I should have put in the link. I almost did. I can check later I gotta hit the gym, just took my preworkout.

[F-Genetics]

"and helps stop HCG from desensitizing your testicles to natural LH"

I´ve seen this before, and I´m thinking of adding Nolv 10mg ED during the 2 weeks post last pin where I will be ramping up HCG to 500iu EOD.

War Machine recommends 20mg of Nolva ED. I have also read that quite a bit. Especially if you are running with proviron. So with proviron/nolva it would be 50/20 mgs ED....
The effective dose for Nolva seems to come in at about 20 mgs or so.
I just got antsy because I felt the itchy nipps. I have had no sensitivity. But I think all will be golden in a few days..

[Flier]

I just put Swifto's name in the search engine. And then I looked for anything regarding his PCT posts. I had to go though a few. I should have put in the link. I almost did. I can check later I gotta hit the gym, just took my preworkout.

hehe....Dude u gotta run then...don´t waste that Jack 3 D on typing....
Tnx....I´ll look it up

[F-Genetics]

It's cool. I use the new Superpump Max. I was using 1MR but a study was done recently and it is liver toxic. Or at least one of the compounds in it is. No worries man.