Tren A vs Tren E?

[Coolhand5599]

What is the difference between the two?

[stpete]

Other than the fact that A is a short ester and E is a long ester?

[JohnnyVegas]

Other than the fact that A is a short ester and E is a long ester?

...so A kicks in and clears faster than E.

Stpete is correct to point out that this question is the easiest of the basics...not the kind of question usually asked by people that should be considering Tren.

[stpete]

Why yes Mr. Vegas, you are right on both points. But i'm a little disappointed in Coolhand as i thought he would of known this by now.

[Coolhand5599]

Why yes Mr. Vegas, you are right on both points. But i'm a little disappointed in Coolhand as i thought he would of known this by now.

Sorry for the disappoint. I figured that was the case. But I am not the kind of person to move forward on something like this on an assumption.

[JohnnyVegas]

Why yes Mr. Vegas, you are right on both points. But i'm a little disappointed in Coolhand as i thought he would of known this by now.

I was agreeing with you on that very point Mr. Stpete. Heh.

[JohnnyVegas]

Sorry for the disappoint. I figured that was the case. But I am not the kind of person to move forward on something like this on an assumption.

You make a good point, and you should be given credit for asking before jabbing. Tren can be a bitch, so most guys will tell you to wait until you are knowledgable and experienced before using something with harsh sides.

[Coolhand5599]

I have done research on the sides. And I already have insomnia and night sweats. I have my whole life. I am very layed back so some anxiety would do me good I have low bp and lots of hair. I have been on test and HGH for eight months from my Dr. I am not getting much from it at all. My body never has reacted to drugs normal. About six weeks ago I started a cycle with Deca. Still not seeing much. A friend has Tren E and chickened out, he said I could have it. I was thinking of adding Tren for the last 8 weeks. But I would start off with a low dose and bump it slowly. Not sure if 8 weeks on Tren would be worth it. If anyone has a thought on this please do tell.

Currently 600 tet and 400 Deca aw and 4 iu HGH Ed.

[gonebluffn]

I would finish your current cycle deca and test and if your not seeing gains check the diet section or try a more agressive workouts. I wouldnt add the tren now as you are on deca and most recomend not running two nor 19 on cycle are you using hcg or an AI ?

[Coolhand5599]

I would finish your current cycle deca and test and if your not seeing gains check the diet section or try a more agressive workouts. I wouldnt add the tren now as you are on deca and most recomend not running two nor 19 on cycle are you using hcg or an AI ?

Yes on the hcg and ai not sure why he has me doing both???? I figure he's the Dr. Way smarter than me so I didnt ask. I did not want him to know I was abusing the script

[auswest]

Yes on the hcg and ai not sure why he has me doing both???? I figure he's the Dr. Way smarter than me so I didnt ask. I did not want him to know I was abusing the script

Because they are both totally different...... Do you understand what both compounds do? I feel stpete will be disappointed again. Lol

[Coolhand5599]

Because they are both totally different...... Do you understand what both compounds do?

To be honest I do not. The dr. Told me the ai is an estrogen blocker to take the day after test shot. He told me the hcg was to help loose wt. I have only researched what I can't ask the Dr. I do not like to question doctors. I know that is really stupid because the misdiagnosed me for 15 years

Sometimes I hate being honest. On this site honesty gets you the riot act

[Coolhand5599]

Any others want to chime in on thoughts?

[fit2bOld]

Dr. works for you like any other hired help. He just happens to be educated and charge more. Get your moneys worth and ask all the questions. If he cant answer them your not getting what your paying for. Lots of great info here in the site do the homework it will really help.

Everyone should demand excellence from your health care professionals!!

[Coolhand5599]

Dr. works for you like any other hired help. He just happens to be educated and charge more. Get your moneys worth and ask all the questions. If he cant answer them your not getting what your paying for. Lots of great info here in the site do the homework it will really help.

Everyone should demand excellence from your health care professionals!!

Very good point.

[yians]

Any thoughts on which ester brings better gains?

[JohnnyVegas]

Sounds like you are one a solid cycle. I wouldn't mess with it. If you want to try Tren, wait until your next cycle.

Hopefully your are taking an appropriate dose of AI and HCG.

The HCG will help your testicles keep working and reduce atrophy. Hopefully he doesn't have you on the doses that the HCG diet people take (since you mentioned your doc said it was for weight?)

Honesty doesn't get you the riot ac here...only bad information and choices. If you do something dangerous, you will get flack for sure.

[JohnnyVegas]

Any thoughts on which ester brings better gains?

Start your own thread if you have questions. But, don't start a thread with that question as you will get grief. That is one of the simple things you should know before on your own. Read the stickies at the top of each section to get some of the basics down.

You will find little difference in esters. Their job is timing, not growth. Shorter esters have slightly more Test per ML, but most seem to say it doesn't make enough difference. The primary difference is short esters kick in faster, but require a lot more injections.

[stpete]

To be honest I do not. The dr. Told me the ai is an estrogen blocker to take the day after test shot. He told me the hcg was to help loose wt. I have only researched what I can't ask the Dr. I do not like to question doctors. I know that is really stupid because the misdiagnosed me for 15 years

Sometimes I hate being honest. On this site honesty gets you the riot act

hahaha...You kill me coolhand. I never can seem to figure you out. A few months ago you asked for a good gym in the Tampa area w/good trainers, and i gave you info on the best gym in Tampa, period. You respond w/"i'm not looking to be buff or anything, just toned up. Plus, it was too far of a drive."
OK, fair enough. you said you were getting a home gym. Cool. All the while you were on GH, then test, then deca. And you asked all kinds of questions regarding other aas, so i just assumed you knew the difference between acetate and enanthate. And now you ask this regarding tren?

My recommendation is to hold off on the tren. You have a good cycle going right now. Actually, it's more than you really need at this stage of the game but you're already into it, so let it be. Besides, two 19-nors isn't the best idea on earth.
And don't rush things, it will come.

Good Luck on your cycle my friend.