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    Please Advise... Difficult Situation

    Okay, so I’m in a unique situation. I understand I should have done more research beforehand but here I am.

    Genetic Potential: I weigh about 180 lbs at 5'9''. I have already grown to be as large or larger than anyone in my family, and then have at least 15 pounds of additional muscle on top of that.

    History: Taken a couple pro-hormones “over the counter” from a local nutrition shop (DRAGON – some mild pH, and Tribol-60 – Pheraflex, Superdrol, and Epi, methylated and taken orally).

    Looking to try something a bit stronger – I want to build muscle but also get really cut for summer. My work-out plan is going to be lifting AND swimming every other day, and just swimming or resting on the next day. Nutrition will be high protein, medium carb, low fat diet, with lots of clean proteins including white meat and fish, also occasional red meats.
    Liver support will be Liv52 + Milk Thistle.

    Vitamin Regimine is Daily Multi with additional B-Complex Vitamin and Vitamin-C pills.

    Medication I am on: Celexa 20 mg(mild anti-depressant, SSRI), and Trazodone (sleep aid) 50-150mg as needed before bed.

    So my friend who happens to have all the connections around here heard my goal was to cut fat and he recommended Trenbolone to me, starting Test-Prop last night and then starting Tren in 2 weeks when he can get it. So I did the first injection of Test-Prop last night, only to discover today that Tren is extremely hardcore and not for beginners. So I can order anything, but it takes 2 weeks to get. The only things I can get today are Deca and Test-E.
    So here are my options now:

    Option 1)
    Stop taking everything immediately and start Nolvadex, with over-the-coutner AI. Run that for 30 days. Take 2-4 weeks off. Then plan and begin the cycle I’m most interested in: Test-E/Equipoise. However, if I do this, I probably wont accomplish my fitness goals in time for summer, which was the whole point.

    Option 2)
    This is what I'm considering doing, but is it too strong for my first cycle?
    Frontload with Test-Prop, and begin Deca (Low-doses) which I can get today at 300 mg/ml. When my test-prop runs in a few weeks, run Test-E until 2 weeks after Deca finishes. (I believe I read somewhere that test should outlast the deca to prevent undesirable side effects). Begin running Nolvadex/Clomid/HCG for post-cycle therapy.

    Option 3)
    Run Test-Prop alone for 2 weeks or however long it takes to get Equipoise to stack it with. Who knows if this is the shipment comes through or not… reliable but no guarantees. Finish same as option 2 as far as PCT.

    I understand it is my fault for my lack of preparation here, but please also help me weigh my options. Thank you.

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    Age?

    Yah, dude that is a train wreck. Stop everything and get your nolva going once the prop clears (3 days).

    Don't ever start a cycle unless you have everything on hand.

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    Prohormones shut you down just as bad as steroids do.. how old are you?

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    I have the Deca/Test-P/Test-E at a friends house if I choose to get it. Should I still just run Nolva and save this for a later time or is there any way option 2 can work?

    Machine: I am 23. The prohormones I've taken in the past may have shut me down a little bit but I just ran over-the-counter PCT and I was fine (Novadex XT, Go-Nads). No undesirable side effects really.

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    Anyone else, help? Is it possible to just switch to a Test-E cycle and run that by itself? I've only done one test-Prop injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JLCiscoPro View Post
    Anyone else, help? Is it possible to just switch to a Test-E cycle and run that by itself? I've only done one test-Prop injection.
    Sorry mate but you should stop the cycle all together.

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    Agreed. Stop everything. Learn a lot more and don't ever start a cycle unless you have everything, including PST.

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    why?

    Thanks a lot for your feedback guys. I guess my question would be why stop all together?

    My best friend has all the PCT ready... Nolva, Clomid, HCG.

    I have test-prop and test-e. Is there anything wrong with just running both of these together? Seems people are recommending test by itself as a first cycle anyways, how does this deviate from that?

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    I recommended stopping until you learn more, not because you necessarily have the wrong products. That is all. My opinion is that this is serious stuff, and we should all have a firm understanding of these things before injecting them into our bodies.

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