1st timer, considering a Var only cycle...

[ThatAthlete82]

Stats: 23, 6'1'', 200lbs, Male, ~12% BF(?)
Goals: In three months time, gain about 10 pounds of muscle while cutting down to 7-8% BF, I can't be heavier than 210 lbs.

As the title states, I've never taken AAS and am thinking about doing an anavar only for my first cycle. It appeals to me because I'm an athlete and can't afford to get too bulky by gaining a lot of weight from Test-E or something like that. Disclaimer: I've TRIED to do my homework, please excuse my noobness.

Here's what I was thinking:
10 week cycle, 60-80mg/day, clean diet(eat about 500 cal above BMR) with a decent amount of cardio but not so much that I inhibit my gains. Supplement with: Flax seed oil, Vitamin E, Vitamin C, and policosanol to reduce my LDL, raise my HDL. I won't be drinking any alcohol(ok maybe a little).

Questions:
Is a var only cycle OK? Will I see gains, will it be worth it assuming my diet is perfect and my training disciplined?

I do not know if I am prone to gyno, while var is mild I still want to be ready just in case, should I keep some lestro on hand if I start seeing symptoms? Is lestro overdoing it compared to other AI's or SERM's?

I hear gyno is not reversible, but some other sources on this site say that it sometimes is with lestro, what's the deal?

Most of the PCT guides I see are for stronger cycles of test/bol/winny, what's a good PCT for a mild var only cycle? Clomid?

Creatine monohydrate use with anavar, anything I should know along the lines of water retention or liver damage?

Is it lame I want to use a chick steroid?


Thanks in advance for any help guys I just wanna do this right the first time.

[bjpennnn]

First off how old are you?

what sport do you play?

[bjpennnn]

so your 23... at your height man you can gain more naturally i promise. Whats your diet like?

[ThatAthlete82]

I'm a wide receiver, football. My diet is near to perfect, minored in nutrition.

[dec11]

I'm a wide receiver, football. My diet is near to perfect, minored in nutrition.

i'd of thought it would be perfect given your qualification?

[ThatAthlete82]

Not saying I'm some doctor or something, but I know how to eat correctly. Knowing how and actually doing it is another matter entirely.

[dec11]

i agree with bjpenn on this one

[ThatAthlete82]

I'm aware that significant gains can be made naturally and that there is less risk involved as well. However, given the mild nature of Anavar and my short time table until training camp(about 4 months), I want to be in the best shape I can possibly be in. Advice would be appreciated.

[dec11]

how come you posted you where 9% bf on 12.9.11?

[songdog]

Read the young and steroids thread.You will find it in the educational threads.You risk doing damage to your endo system.No matter how small the cycle or how mild you think the compound is.The risks out weight the gains.

[ThatAthlete82]

That was a guess, recently had my BF tested with calipers.

[ThatAthlete82]

Read the young and steroids thread.You will find it in the educational threads.You risk doing damage to your endo system.No matter how small the cycle or how mild you think the compound is.The risks out weight the gains.

With all due respect, the risks do not outweigh the gains for me. This isn't just about having a good body. I have a lot riding on my career and I want to be in the best physical shape possible. I am aware of the risks. I'd appreciate the help of the knowledgable experts here so I minimize those risks.

[dec11]

That was a guess, recently had my BF tested with calipers.

but yet you have a ? after the 12% you quoted on this post.

too sketchy and im having ? about your actual age, so im out

[ThatAthlete82]

but yet you have a ? after the 12% you quoted on this post.

too sketchy and im having ? about your actual age, so im out

Those things are kind of inaccurate and I'm thinking it was skewed by the fact that I worked out about 30 minutes prior(hence the ~). I'm 23, no secret there. Thanks anyways though.

[1000_DaysAsTheLion]

and on that day, not a single question from the OP was answered.

op don't skimp on the pct. anything that causes shutdown needs a legit pct. do swiftos recommendation - stickied in the pct section. I was thinking about doing VAR only, but its so expensive u may as well go with test and get better results.

ad im pretty sure the deal with gyno is it is sometimes reversible, but dont count on it.

[bigcats]

I was thinking same thing.

[gats0101]

10 weeks is along time for any oral only cycle. I think that from my experience with Anavar that you probably can't gain 10 lean lbs on it at 60-80mgs in a safe 6 week cycle. Maybe 5 to 8 but everyone is different. If you do a medium bulking diet you might be able to put on 10 lbs. All depends on the diet.

[ThatAthlete82]

8 weeks at 80mg, is that pushing it? I won't be putting any more stress on my liver, no drinking. I'll also take vitamin E, policonasol, and flax seed oil to keep my lipids in check. Also plan to have the doc monitor my blood pressure and HDL/LDL levels.

[Bonaparte]

Your lipids will go to hell while on cycle. No doubt about that. But this isn't an immediate threat to your health, so I'd focus on liver enzymes, since Var can be much more damaging to those than many people think.

8 weeks at 80mg should be fine. And you'll accomplish your goal on cycle, but lose a few lbs of "muscle" when you come off, since you'll lose the glycogen retention and extra creatine storage from the Var.

Stack it with creatine and for PCT, go with Nolva: 40/20/20/20/20