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Thread: Test E, Equi, Winny Cycle advice please!

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    Test E, Equi, Winny Cycle advice please!

    Hi all,

    Im new to this forum but i would be very interested to get some feedback and advice on my proposed cycle.
    Basic stats to start - 29yrs age, 5'8, 170lbs, 12% bf.

    Done two previous cycles, first was a newbie error and just did deca. Did alot more research into second cycle and went with test e and equipose. Good solid gains.

    The plan for my third cycle is quality lean gains and cutting up.
    Proposed steroids: Test E, Equip, Winny
    PCT: HCG, Nolva, Clomid, Arimidex
    Cyle length:12 weeks

    Plan:
    Week 1-12: Test E @ 500mg p/w
    Week 1-2: Equipose @700mg p/w
    Week 3-11: Equipose @500mg p/w
    Week 7 - 12: Oral Winny @ 50mg e/d

    PCT
    Week 3-12: HCG @ 500 IU p/w
    Week 14 - 17: Nolva run 40,40,20,20 ed
    Week 14 - 17: Clomid run 100,100, 50, 50 ed

    A question i wanted to ask is, is it worth running arimidex .25mg e4d while on cycle or just keeping on hand incase of any estro-based side effects?

    Training: Heavy weights 5 times a week on a 3 on 1 off, 2 on 1 off basis.
    Cardio: 3-5 x weeks in the morning for 30 - 40mins on a stationary bike.

    Basic Diet example:
    Before cardio: Whey Protein Shake
    Breakfast (after cardio) - 100g Oats, 10 egg whites
    Meal 2: 50g Brown Rice, Can of tuna, Olive Oil, Green Veg
    Pre Workout: N.O Drink, BCAA
    Post Workout: Whey Protein, Dextrose (50g), BCAA
    Meal 3: Brown Pasta, 200g Chicken breast, veg
    Meal 4: Chicken breast / Fish / Lean mince, Salad, Green Veg
    Meal 5: Cassien Shake & Natural Peanut butter.

    Macros of diet =
    Carbs - 200g per day
    Protein - 250g per day
    Fat - 70g per day

    So that is my proposed cyle plan and diet.
    I would appreciate any feedback and advice you may have.

    Peace

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    You've done ur homework...........AWESOME!! 1st cycle?

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    Seems like you got it planned out ok,

    I dont think anyone needs 100mg of clomid but thats IMO.

    Also leave the AI out unless you are prone to gyno. AI can kill your gains, libido and joints... just hold off unless prone.

    Good luck!

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    Seems like you got it planned out ok,

    I dont think anyone needs 100mg of clomid but thats IMO.

    Also leave the AI out unless you are prone to gyno. AI can kill your gains, libido and joints... just hold off unless prone.

    Good luck!

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    1st cycle?

    If it is i'd just use testosterone. How will you know how each compound affects you if you don't start out with just one compound? Also.... EQ is similar to winny in that it helps generate collagen synthesis but doesn't improve cross-linking connectivity. This means that it can helps create new tendon fibers but they are brittle..... and thus susceptible to tearing.

    Lastly..... Most people need to run EQ for 14 weeks to see anything..... if they see anyting. EQ is an extremilly weak compound for building new muscle tissue and is relatively useless. Not only that but 500mg's is fairly light by EQ's standards.

    ~Haz~

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    Sorry I didn't read you're entire post.... just saw you ran two previous cycles.

    Since you never ran testosterone alone how can you differentiate what EQ did for you compared to the test? I'm betting you would have gained the same amount from test alone...... I've done cycles with EQ in them..... up to 1000mg's/wk and I saw no difference form a test only cycle.

    Just my .02 - and trying to save you some $$
    ~Haz~

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    looks ok,, id run the winny to wk 14,, eq could prb be dropped if you havent paid for it yet

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    Thanks very much for your replys. I take it all on board and appreciate that many of you will be far more experienced than me.

    Haz, I understand what you saying about the eq and test but i guess the reason im running them together again is i found they really worked well for me last cyle. Good solid gains and not much bloat. I guess i havent thought on running test alone as I really dont want to hold water and was under the impression that eq will keep this down?? If I was to run purely test and winny, could i expect very similar gains with little water retention??

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