Second Cycle Idea's and Stacks?

[musbtr1pin]

First off, I have just finished my first cycle a couple weeks ago, and I want to start looking into a second cycle.
My first cycle was a tren/test mix 1 cc a week for 10 weeks. I gained approx 30 lbs, while eating extremely heavy protein rich foods along the way. I am right now 6'4'' 200lbs give or take 5. My ultimate goal is to reach 245 lbs someday.
Lets get down to some business and lets see what you guys recommend. I was thinking a test e stacked with something else.. also, what about the frequency of the injections? I have heard people injecting themselves twice a week to keep levels elevated.. Ideas?

[gixxerboy1]

well you obviously werent ready for your 1st cylce. I wouldn't jump into a second one.
Why not do some research first instead of someone doing it all for you. Then you will actually understand what you are doing and injecting instead of just listening to what someone else recommends.

[musbtr1pin]

god, I dont give a **** if I wasnt ready... Would you just stop being such a ****in bitch and answer the question... I DONT CARE

[gixxerboy1]

lol. sure. really want to help you now.

eat a fvcking sandwich

[Far from massive]

Go to another board and get down to business on your cycles. We will see you when you come back here asking how to cure your gyno and erection problems.

Oh and pick up your cereal that you threw on the floor your mommy is really getting tired of that shit.

[gixxerboy1]

the sad part is i gave him good advice.
If he doesnt research on his own how will he ever learn or know what anyone says to run is a good thing. But he is d-bag so fvck em

[Far from massive]

I know I was going to type my standard analogy where I compare someone coming and asking for cycle instructions to someone going to a racing site and saying they just bought an ADRL Promod bike and does anyone know how to make a pass? Both are equally dangerous and both require vast amounts of knowlege to anticipate all the possible outcomes and be ready with the correct reactions. Never understood why anyone would want to start a steroid cycle or race an 800hp motorcycle without all the knowlege available. But for those who do there are guardrails and gyno, Ive always wanted to avoid both.

[musbtr1pin]

I'm irritated that I can't get an honest reply without someone telling me I did this and this wrong and that I need to go back to the drawing board. WELL I CANT, and this is where it is. All I asked for was help, instead you guys are just bashin the shit outta me... Can't a guy get a bit of advice from some people who know what the f*** is going on? I know I screwed up my first cycle, not knowing myself and just listening to someone else.

Now, can I get some helpful advice on what I should do or not?

[musbtr1pin]

Yea, I know about gyno. I have a case of it as we speak(minor), and I am taking arimidex. 1 mg/d

[gixxerboy1]

I'm irritated that I can't get an honest reply without someone telling me I did this and this wrong and that I need to go back to the drawing board. WELL I CANT, and this is where it is. All I asked for was help, instead you guys are just bashin the shit outta me... Can't a guy get a bit of advice from some people who know what the f*** is going on? I know I screwed up my first cycle, not knowing myself and just listening to someone else.

Now, can I get some helpful advice on what I should do or not?

you got honest advice. You shouldnt run a second cycle. so dont make a mistake again.

And your not asking for advice your asking for someone to design something for you. Atleast make some effort lay something out and people can give advice on that.
And your question about injecting can be answered wit ha simple search.
It just looks like you want the easy way on everything

[musbtr1pin]

Sad thing is; I've done a ton of research, after the fact of course when I realized that I was a moron for doing this without any prior knowledge. I am still unsure of the way to go about this. This is some serious shit, and I do NOT want to screw it up. You guys have any good articles you could point me too? I still feel like I don't know what I should, but I don't have a ton of time either to research this. College is kicking my ass already, and with work as well, I can't seem to get a break for anything besides the two hours a day I take for the gym...

Sorry for exploding earlier...

[The Bear 79]

The replies u got WERE "honest", no 1 lied 2 u.............& u ARE getting advice from VERY knowledgeable people, its just not wut u wanted 2 here, so u threw a childish fit, & awful quick mite I add, a soon as u saw the very 1st reply wasn't wut u wanted 2 hear, u went retarded(er). No 1 will tell wut u want 2 hear in fear of angering u otherwise, u will only get REAL, HONEST, advice here. Take it, or leave it.

[shooterdude]

wow man, there is a lot of reading here, and obviously you are too lazy to do the reading on your own. So hey leave out the test just do 1000 mg of deca twice a week, u will be huge in no time

[gixxerboy1]

read the educational and sticky threads on top of each forum you want to learn about.

[shooterdude]

read the educational and sticky threads on top of each forum you want to learn about.

this is good advice, and thats even after u called them a bitch

[The Bear 79]

Gixx, u & ur wife got me in trouble. My girl walked in while I wuz reading 1 of ur posts, & she sez "WTF IS THIS?!?!? WHO THE HELL R U TALKIN 2?!?!?!?"

[musbtr1pin]

It says that using deca by itself can cause sexual dysfunction and low testosterone levels. It also suggests that I stack it with test. So why would I just run 1000mgs 2/w?

[The Bear 79]

It says that using deca by itself can cause sexual dysfunction and low testosterone levels. It also suggests that I stack it with test. So why would I just run 1000mgs 2/w?

Awesome!! U just proved u r capable of using the search function & doing ur own research, keep on truckin bro, there's MUCH MUCH mor 2 learn.

[gixxerboy1]

Gixx, u & ur wife got me in trouble. My girl walked in while I wuz reading 1 of ur posts, & she sez "WTF IS THIS?!?!? WHO THE HELL R U TALKIN 2?!?!?!?"

as long as your pants werent around your knees you should be able to talk your way out of it

[shooterdude]

It says that using deca by itself can cause sexual dysfunction and low testosterone levels. It also suggests that I stack it with test. So why would I just run 1000mgs 2/w?

wow lol did you really think i was serious? 1000 mg twice a week would cause a couple problems lol i was kinda hinting that you should read more and you could come up with your own stack and if it sounds like you know what your doing and have read a little people will give their input. Me personally i don't really know shit im on my first cycle of test only. Tren is some pretty crazy stuff from what i've read and and been told by a few people that have done it. Can't believe you did that with your first cycle. U said you did a tren/test mix 1cc a week, do you know how many mg of each compound was in 1cc? U want to be carefull when sticking stuff in your body because you can mess it up for life bro.

[musbtr1pin]

Haha, yea. Thanks... I will start my long research process.

[The Bear 79]

as long as your pants werent around your knees you should be able to talk your way out of it

HA!! Were good.

[musbtr1pin]

So i've done some research and this is where im at now. This is going to be my plan for a second cycle, months down the road. Lets see if im getting close.

Deca 400-600 mg/week
Test-E 400-600 mg/week ( Match the deca, in mg form)

Deca 12 weeks
Test-E 14 weeks

PCT:

Consist of Nolvadex and clomid

This is an idea, lets remember, so if you see better options let me know. I'm sure i'll be able to fine tune this myself as time goes on, but just curious to see where this stands


Nolva - week 1 40 mg/d
week 2 40 mg/d
week 3 20 mg/d
week 4 20 mg/d

Clomid
Week 1 150 mg/d
week 2 150 mg/d
week 3 100 mg/d
week 4 100 mg/d
week 5 50 mg/d

I haven't done a lot of research, but from my readings a good OCT is Cabergoline or Bromocroptine. Anyone know anything about these off the top of their heads?

[musbtr1pin]

Is that sub par or not? Good Baseline?