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  1. 10-07-2011, 05:24 PM #1
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    finally found a reliable source!!! which test to use???

    I've been contemplating steroids for years now, and i have found a supplier who i can trust so i'm taking the first steps. first off i really wanna know what is the best approach for a newbie. I've heard that test only is the best so that you can see how your body will react (i was thinking of adding dbol for first 4 weeks but have had a lot of buddies tell me to hold off on that for a later cycle) would sust 250 be ok? or should i stick to test Enanthate ? and the nolvadex at 10mg daily throughout the whole cycle or just used at the signs of gyno? Any and all info would be greatly appreciated!!! if i left anything out please let me know, oh some info on how to use pct would be cool, i've heard 3 weeks after last injection but doesnt it matter which type of test you are using?

    i'm 28 years old, 5'7 170lbs taking in around 3600 calories a day, 290 g protein...
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    Stats and training experience?
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  3. 10-07-2011, 05:41 PM #3
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    5'7 170 lbs around 8 % body fat right now, train 5 days a week plus 3-4 days of cardio.... been lifting for about 11 years now. currently a personal trainer (nasm, nsca, and ace certified) the training is pretty on point. currently going for a degree in exercise science. i can naturally get up to about 185 with 11-12 percent body fat i'd like to see 195-200 with less that 13....
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    What PCT have you planned out?
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  5. 10-07-2011, 05:50 PM #5
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    thiking clomid... 21 days from last injection is what i've heard is best..
    Day 1 - 300mg
    Day 2-11 - 100mg/day
    Day 12-21 - 50mg/day
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    is it best to spread out doses of test at 1/2 ml 4 times a week or 1ml 2 times a week? and the clomid all at once or spread out throughout the day...
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    Post up your proposed cycle and full pct. Your PCT needs work. Read the sticky's in the PCT section Bro. Also Half ml means nothing if you do not know what it is dosed at.
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    dont have a proposed cycle or full pct well thats not completely true (i have several ideas i've gotten from all kinds of people currently on cycles)... honestly everyone on this site has a different opinion and i just wanna avoid as many rookie mistakes as possible. everyone pushes the do your research stand and i totally agree but if you really look at the research out there its all peoples opinions, test only for your first cycle... go big or go home stack em!... stay away from orals... orals are great for a kickstart... they all contradict one another. so really i just wanna follow advice from the pros on here who have already seen what works and what doesnt
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    No one on here is gonna build a cycle for you and plan your PCT. Here is a hint though if you introduce more than one compound and something goes wrong you will not know which compound is causing the issue. This is why most will suggest test only as the first cycle.
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    Id stick to the enth, 400mg of enth a week would serve you better than 500mg sust a week. Sust needs to be done eod, at that dose I thought it was great, but it was my 4th cycle. As far as when to start clomid, it depends on how long its active in your system, theres a helpful thread somewhere with active life times so you can plan your pct accordingly. Nolva, depends on how sensitive you are, 400mg a week test is ok to test the waters just keep it on hand.
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    thanks jamotech, think thats the first direct answer i've ever gotten, as far as the 400mg of enth goes should i split that into twice a week say 200mg on monday and then another 200mg on thursday? and how much nolva would you recommend if i do start seeing signs of gyno?
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    Monday morning, thursday night. As far as the nolva, dont have any experience using it as gyno reversal. Search around, you should find some more consistent info on specifically using it for gyno if signs appear.
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    Nolva is better used for pct Bro. You need an AI for on cycle.
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    Aromatise Inhibitor right? those prevent the conversion of androgens into estrogen in fat, muscle, breast???? that would be like arimidex? i did a little reading up on those are those safe to get at online pharmacy? i'd hate to get a fake AI and end up with man tits...
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    you can get them from the site on the top right corner of this page.
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  16. 10-08-2011, 01:52 PM #16
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    yeah think i'll look for some elsewhere, seems a little too good to be true that i can just get the AI on this site...
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    yeah think i'll look for some elsewhere, seems a little too good to be true that i can just get the AI on this site...
    It is a legal loop hole the bottles say not for human consumption they fall under a research chemical clause not subject to drug laws. They are 100% legit and I have used them 4 times.
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  18. 10-08-2011, 04:55 PM #18
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    thanks for info redz... p.s. awesome home gym!
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