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    Need help with first cycle

    43y.o. - plenty of years lifting

    I had a first cycle planned out that included Nolvadex, but I couldn't get any but I do have Armidex. This is what I have:

    5000mg Test-E
    100 10mg tabs Dianabol
    40 50mg tabs Clomid
    50 1mg tabs Armidex

    I was thinking either 500mg Test a week for 10 weeks or about 415mg for 12 weeks.

    Dianabol- 30mg a day for first five weeks (two days short of five weeks).

    Can someone help me with when to take the ancillaries and tell me if I can get away with not using Nolvadex? Thanks.

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    I would only take an AI if needed, so it is nice to have on hand but only start if you develop sides.

    What is your post cycle plan? Do you have a pct planned?

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    You have clomid, so that can be used for PCT. A lot of vets consider Nolvadex to be better than Clomid, but others still successfully use Clomid. Adex should help with estro control on cycle.

    Pretty much the only thing I would recommend would be some liver support for the Dbol.

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    Get some nolva from the red banner ar-r.
    Btw this smells funny.... Why would you buy your gear before knowing what u are gonna do? I would think a 40 something year old would be a lil more responsible. And what about stats? Age, height, weight, bf%?
    I would get some hcg for on cycle and use a clomid/nolva combo for pct. And 415 to 500 is a nothing difference for the extra 2 weeks.

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    you can order nolva from ar-r banner up top

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    Quote Originally Posted by FuzzyPeaches o.O View Post
    What is your post cycle plan? Do you have a pct planned?
    I was going to do:

    clomid 100/50/50/50
    nolva 40/20/20/20

    but now I'm not sure what I should do without Nolvadex. Can I get away with using just Clomid and Armidex or is Nolvadex pretty much a necessity?

    If I can get away with just Clomid and Armidex, is there a plan you could suggest? Thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonada8 View Post
    Btw this smells funny.... Why would you buy your gear before knowing what u are gonna do? I would think a 40 something year old would be a lil more responsible. And what about stats? Age, height, weight, bf%?
    Did you miss the part where I said I had a cycle planned which means I did know what I was going to do? It's what I now have available to me and I'm trying to be "responsible" (by taking steroids, really?) and see if I can make do with what I have or see if acquiring Nolvadex is a must. If I was going to be "responsible" I wouldn't be doing any of this at all. I'm obviously willing to take a risk here and I'm looking for advice from others on a message board from people who have more knowledge with this than I do. There aren't exactly studies I can look up on PubMed that will tell me what my best course of action here should be.

    5'11, 225lbs., about 20% bf

    And 415 to 500 is a nothing difference for the extra 2 weeks.
    This can be interpreted in multiple ways.

    1. Stick with 500 mg. for ten weeks, the extra two weeks isn't going to make much of a difference.
    2. Stick with 415 mg. for twelve weeks, the extra two weeks is better than getting 85mg. more for the other weeks.
    3. Either choice is fine; it's not going to make that much of a difference.

    Which did you mean?

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    BF % is 2 hi 2 cycle.

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    More of answer 3.
    The 2 weeks would present more gains just cause the time difference but it's all a personal choice.

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    y would you want to take Nolva and clo? Its on or the other, and if i had to pick 1 it would be the nolv

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    ^ why would it be one or the other? they arent the same drug, nor do they have the same action...

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    drop the dbol. use only test for a 1st cycle

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    This is wat you need to do.Run test only 10 weeks.Pct run clomid and nova both do different things.But before you cycle you need to drop your bf down or you may have some serious estro sides.Get down to 15%

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    The ar banner is no longer at the top. Where can I get nolva?

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    Anyone?

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