Help please with Dbol side effects etc...

[mcsnare]

Hello all,
I am so glad i have found this site.

here is my situation.
in September i started taking dbol.
some days i would take 20 mg some days 30 mg some days 50 mg
i took them over a 2 month period along with weight gainers
i had amazing results and felt amazing
i went from 10 stone to 12 stone.
during this period i was eating OK and fluids were OK but i was consuming a lot of alcohol as well like an idiot
i got the roids off a friend who recommended 50 mg a day.
i did have a break for 1 week where i didnt take any dbol as well as they seemed to be giving me a headache
the other flaw as well was i was advised to take them all together rather than spread out, just before i hit the gym.
after 2 months i collapsed and was faint after a quick workout, only 25 minutes, i stretched a few times as i felt like i was really tense and thought i was having an anxiety attack. Then i i started to lose consciousness.
i was rushed to hospital and they said i had an vasovagal episode. I never actual blacked out, i fought it with panic.
since that day i stopped the dbol immediately in fear. i also stopped drinking booze, reduced caffeine intake to virtually nothing and gave up smoking a 16 year bad habit. ( i was consuming alot of booze due to a relationship break up)
im just trying to give u all the info here...
blood pressure that day was low and my heart went up to 150 bpm over a short period. since then
i had a chest xray done they said my lungs and chest were fine
i had ecgs done all fine
i had 2 blood tests done and the results the first time where all ok
the second time there was a slight issue my doctor says

first results de***ber
bilirubin 13
albumin 46

second result a month later
bilirubin 23
albumin 51

for about 2 weeks i was light headed and couldnt get out of bed, now im lightheaded most of the time and get depression but im fighting it, i have gastro problems constantly burping to relieve pressure from my chest, heart palps a few times, anxiety is no way as bad as it was now. very fatigued. iv got to have a endoscopic for my gastro as im spitting up blood, but.... it might be blood from my gums, for some reason my gums are bleeding every morning and im getting alot of brown mucus which i think might just be tar from giving up smoking. which i have never had before, i have gone down to about 10 and half stone now. im 6"2 and 33 years of age

obviously i been through some horrible episodes and have scarred me alot.
i am worried about my liver do to the blood test results.

has any one please got some advice, information anything that can help me. I am so depressed and feel totally helpless.
i will never take roids ever again ever,

[gixxerboy1]

i dont know what you are asking. You were extremely reckless. Drinking, smoking, oral steroids for a long period.
Not to be tuff but your 33 not a child and should know better
But i dont see a question here?

[mcsnare]

smoking cigarettes not weed. and theres a group of lads i met all on dbol who have been taking them for years and years, cycles up to 6 months on them - all drinking smoking etc.. 2 months i went through 1 and half pots, like i said sometimes i took 20mg some times 30mg sometimes 50mg all at once. i thought i was ok. i had no knowledge of roids, i just wanted to look better, psycological due to rejection.
the question is has anyone got any advise how i can get better, been through similar, is what is happening to me normal. am i going to die? seriously i am a total state. well i actually only took dbol for a month and a half in total.
gixxer i know i was stupid, i just trusted the person i got them from and thought all was ok i had no idea what i was getting myself into, i thought well if its not injections then there safe. i know thats not the case now.

[gixxerboy1]

There is not much you can do at this point. Stop the d-bol and the drinking and that will help your liver.
I'm sure you suppressed your natural test running the d-bol for that long. I would normally recommend runnig a pct to help that.But i dont know what other health issues you have going on. The bleeding and gastro issues. I'm clueless. You are better of coming clean with your DR. And your friends are idiots

[mcsnare]

and i dont want to sound like an alcoholic. i didnt drink for around 8 years until i broke up with my ex, and when i was taking the dbol during 2 months i got drunk about 6 times once really bad but i did alot of social drinking also but not to get drunk. like i said i gave everything up in the beginning of NOV and i thought the roids would have left my system by now and i would be ok

[felk87]

Sorry to use you as an example but i hope some kids in this forum read this and learn steroids are not to be taken recreational...they are a commitment and when you do things with out knowledge this happens...as far as for what you can do i think its best for you to talk to a doctor and have them run a complete lipid..blood..and mental state tests on you, you are not dying just do whats right and be smart about your recovery, what steroids do for some people they do different for other so i suggest go get medical health let them know what your situation is as it doesnt exactly sound life threating but if left unattended it might get worst. Doctors by law cannot diaclose any info you give them unless its extinuance circumstances so by talking with a knowledgeble doctor and explaining what you did they can help you. There are a lot of dumb docotrs but then again there is some really good ones just make the right choice.

[mcsnare]

i have been honest with my doctor, and A&E - i gave my doctor the remainder of the tablets - im not in connection with my ex friends anymore again i stopped everything in NOV. like i said before i have no idea about these things what is a pct? and can i do some kind of detox, take a vitamin or drink something that will help me , any advice sir would be greatly appreciated

[gixxerboy1]

pct is post cycle therapy. When you take take steroids your body stops producing its natural hormones. So pct help get them going again.

There is a pct section of this board. I would go read up

[mcsnare]

i will thank you. i sent you both a pm
you can delete this thread now if you want you have given me enough advice thank you again

[felk87]

i have been honest with my doctor, and A&E - i gave my doctor the remainder of the tablets - im not in connection with my ex friends anymore again i stopped everything in NOV. like i said before i have no idea about these things what is a pct? and can i do some kind of detox, take a vitamin or drink something that will help me , any advice sir would be greatly appreciated

The thing is you are asking for advice on something that sounds serious, i personally think that the advice of anyone here will not help you as much as a doctors perspective, people in these forum are very i mean very good with giving ideas, advice, and educate about proper procedures on following cycle protocol. In your case though it sounds more like you need a doctor to run test to see if your liver its affected, or what exactly is causing these sides after stoping such a toxic aa. Again pct and all these other methods are for minimal, to mild sides, but your case it sounds like your sides are existant after you stop the aa, so go to a different doctor and let them run test on you. Stay calm your ok. And hope for the best

[Nooomoto]

We should sticky this for all the kids that come on here looking for advice on running dbol only cycles.

[mcsnare]

thats what i was explaining
the blood test results are as follows

Dec..
bilirubin 13
albumin 46

Jan
bilirubin 23
albumin 51

they have said i have slight abnormal liver function.
my doctor said he is not worried about it he said its only slight
but i got the results from AnE and they said its a concern due to the steroids,
are AnE just trying to scare me to not taking roids again or are they right, its like two different storys.

when you stop steroids ( DBOL ) is it normal to have abnormal liver function a few months after with these results?
thats what i am trying to find out

[mcsnare]

We should sticky this for all the kids that come on here looking for advice on running dbol only cycles.

feel free to
i know about ten people aged about 21 injecting ket
iv warned them about the side effects
but the dont listen, no one told me, all i got was that how safe dbol was.

[guitario]

We should sticky this for all the kids that come on here looking for advice on running dbol only cycles.

If you think that is typical of a dbol only cycle then I feel sorry for you.

[mcsnare]

i think its a mixture of things, drinking, smoking to many fags, dbol, stress and not drinking enough water. they were the main factors. but the dbol has and is doing something to my liver - yet i gave them up months ago and didnt even go the full wack on em . and i was only doing dbol, iv never been overweight, always been quite fit, but i pushed myself to hard and went into this not knowing how to do it properly, because i had my head all messed up by my ex gf. It was my fault overall. i just wish there was a quick fix to this. or i wish i knew someone else who had been through this and pulled through it. that would give me so much hope.

[guitario]

2 months on Dbol shouldn't do anything bad to the liver at those dosages, (apart from temporarily elevating enzyme levels). I would hazard a guess it was something else making you feel that way.

[felk87]

2 months on Dbol shouldn't do anything bad to the liver at those dosages, (apart from temporarily elevating enzyme levels). I would hazard a guess it was something else making you feel that way.

So your saying using dbol for a period of time without anything else is no problem...lol good advice

[gixxerboy1]

So your saying using dbol for a period of time without anything else is no problem...lol good advice

THats not what he said. Re read it. his post was correct

[felk87]

THats not what he said. Re read it. his post was correct

For what i read on here dbol is a bad idea to run alone thats all i am saying...if you look at how many people as k about a dbol only cycle, thats the reason why i was saying that what he posted would make people think it would be okay. But i know what he is saying, and imo i dont think its wise to say that dbol ,drinking,smoking,and unproper diet didnt have anything to do with his situation.

[guitario]

For what i read on here dbol is a bad idea to run alone thats all i am saying...if you look at how many people as k about a dbol only cycle, thats the reason why i was saying that what he posted would make people think it would be okay. But i know what he is saying, and imo i dont think its wise to say that dbol ,drinking,smoking,and unproper diet didnt have anything to do with his situation.

I can't tell if you're referring to me or the OP. All I will say is you shouldn't parrot what other people say, but share your own experiences mixed with a dose of common sense. The OP's symptoms seem a bit bizarre and I don't think anyone on this board knows enough to give proper medical advice.

[felk87]

I can't tell if you're referring to me or the OP. All I will say is you shouldn't parrot what other people say, but share your own experiences mixed with a dose of common sense. The OP's symptoms seem a bit bizarre and I don't think anyone on this board knows enough to give proper medical advice.

yes i agree with you 100%, which is what i am saying to the op. re-read maybe.

[mcsnare]

hi guys, giving you an update.
im being sent for a gastro endoscopic where they put a camera down my throat to see where the bloods coming from. i still think its from my gums and i am really concerned about my liver still, but after some good advice from my father, hes explained how strong the liver actually is and how well it repairs itself, if there was major concern im sure the doctor would have sent me to hospital, anxiety has reduced alot now as well, i still got it but no way as bad as it was. burping hasnt changed, im constantly burping to relieve pressure from my chest - under the heart and around lungs, its so uncomfortable. i wake up gasping for air most days i think thats part of giving up smoking, my lungs dont hurt they just seem so sensative and like im a stop breathing, my lung xray came back perfect. ecg perfect, blood all perfect except for abnormal liver function which the doctors said is normal due to taking steroids.

has anyone had bad side effects from not smoking anymore or from dbol
or even withdrawal symptoms?

[gixxerboy1]

it honeslty sounds like you have some intestional problem. I dont think its steroid related.
I hope you gets some answers with the results of your test

[Bossman]

I've NEVER met anyone that got good advice from a gym buddy. Unless it was advice from me...

[songdog]

So your saying using dbol for a period of time without anything else is no problem...lol good advice

Bro back in the day we ran Dbol 4 to 6 weeks sometimes more.Hell back then we only ran 250 mg test a week.No problems.Like Haz said a lot of that about the liver is overkill.

[mcsnare]

i had a gastro endoscopy, it was horrible only lasted 8 minutes but damn that camera down ya throat, i wasnt sedated either.
results are as follows
inflamed stomach and inflamed oesophagus GRADE 2
my bilirubin as gone down to 15 which is positive but my albumin is still high.
im on omeprazole 40 mg a day and in a few months i got to go for another check up camera down the throat job again and blood tests in the future
i been told not to drink booze for a year
o btw they do a biopsy when the cameras down to test for cancer etc.. it came back with traces of hcg

moral of the story is dont drink booze and do steroids at the the same time (same day)
im still not out of the woods yet fingers crossed.

[Crest]

Sorry to say it buddy but it's not the dbol that's done this to you. I'd stop taking any drugs or alcohol and let the doctor sort you out.

[BBrian]

As for the smoking, I quit smoking after fifteen years of it last August. Since then I contracted bronchitis four times, two of which turned into pneumonia. The issue is that when we smoke, we burn the cilia in our lungs. The cilia act to move mucus around and rid our lungs of bacteria, among other things. When the cilia are singed from the heat of a cigarette, however, what we end up with is an accumulation of tar, and dead bacteria trapped in that tar and mucus. Now that your cilia are regrowing, they are breaking up that tar and the bacteria that has been trapped in your lungs is actually coming back to life. So not only are you coughing up tar and whatever else has become trapped on top of the surface of your lungs, such as mucus, but you also have a zoo of bacteria running wild and possibly even replicating therein. During this time you are going to be at a high risk of infection, so I recommend taking plenty of Vitamin C, echinacea, and anything else that promotes immune function, but be prepared for infections and having to take antibiotics. At the first sign of bronchitis, don't hesitate to seek out antibiotics either, or you will end up like me with pneumonia. Quitting smoking is tough for several reasons, but after around a year's time, your lungs should be back to complete healthy function.

As for the liver issues, I'm no doctor, but it's pretty obvious that between taking dianobol and drinking alcohol, you were putting a serious beating on your liver. I'm sure your doctors understand this completely, but when it comes to AAS and the effects thereof, not all doctors are going to be as knowledgeable as we'd like. I'm sure it seems a little silly of me to recommend this, but taking herbal supplements that support liver function such as milk thistle and LIV52 can certainly only help your situation. Good luck, and if you ever decide to take anabolics again, I hope you do plenty of research first. Take care friend.

[Hitman Heimler]

I know you already know this at this point... but I just wanted to say that I hate hearing that brother! I will say that I'm impressed that not every guy on Jersey Shore has had the same thing happen! lol Everyone can respond to drugs differently, and there is always the better alternative with injecting. At this point that body of yours needs to recover and work on that liver issue; there is always another day Partying and AAS have no business together! You know that, unfortunately the hard way! I bid you good recovery!

[Ashop]

i have been honest with my doctor, and A&E - i gave my doctor the remainder of the tablets - im not in connection with my ex friends anymore again i stopped everything in NOV. like i said before i have no idea about these things what is a pct? and can i do some kind of detox, take a vitamin or drink something that will help me , any advice sir would be greatly appreciated

I would take this chance to get your natural hormone production tested and see where yout at currently.