next cycle

[dumbtoad]

I have done multiple cycles. Ranging from eq/test to tren 100/sust 325. I have two bottles of tren e 200 and two bottles of sust 325 and am looking to do them all in one cycle. I'm seeking a bit of advice on the best way to do it. I have a fistfull of chlomid for pct. Thanks for your impending advice. I'm 6'3" 235lbs and 33 yrs old...

[Stosh_112]

On ur previous cycles was clomid all you used for pct? I myself have 2 bottles of sust250 and tren e 200. Was gonna do more research and get more feedback before running the tren. A more experienced member should be able to point u in the right direction. Put up some stats like ht, bw, bf% and age. This will help determine the best approach.

[DanB]

what is your current b/f?

I would use more than clomid for pct, look into nolvadex

I would also use an a.i. during cycle, look into armidex or aromasin

HCG would do no harm either to keep your lads working on cycle and will result in a easier recovery in pct

Also adviseable to keep caber on hand while running tren to combat prolactin sides, heres a good thread on it
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...d#.TzKbEYFfaSo

I also assume your diet is in check to meet your goals? Can you tell me your average pro/carb/fat/cal intake?

[dumbtoad]

Chlomid is all I've used for pct in all my cycles and I've never had a problem. I threw a few stats on the original post. Hope for further advice. This'll be a great cycle I just want to go about it the right way...

[xo3et]

You need to post more stats mate, BF% being something we need to know to give the best advice possible along with diet "As DanB has already said".

[dumbtoad]

Sorry about the missing info, I'm new to this. My body fat is around 13%. I'm basically on the see food diet eating everything I can. I'm averaging around 4000 cal a day. I'm going to start supplementing with protein shakes as well. I've been a avid gym goer and lifter for eight years now. I know hcg is a great idea, but any advice on which is best...there's a lot out there. As for the armidex and caber, those aren't too easy to come by. I'll certainly get the nolva though.

[DanB]

Something similar to caber called prami is avaiable from ar-r banner

they also have armidex called liquidex

I've no experience with sea food diets etc and it may well be fine but i suggest you go to the nutrition section and post your current diet and let the guys there critique it.

here is a thread on hcg, it basically says they all fine
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...G#.TzKoHYFfaSo

but you do know that hcg must be injected yes? the drops etc are worthless garbage, you prob already know this but i have to say it as you would be surprised at the amount of people that dont know

[jasc]

I've no experience with sea food diets etc and it may well be fine but i suggest you go to the nutrition section and post your current diet and let the guys there critique it.

lol Dan.. he's on the "see food" diet, as in he sees food, he eats it

[dumbtoad]

Thanks Dan. How would you recommend running the cycle?

[DanB]

lol Dan.. he's on the "see food" diet, as in he sees food, he eats it

haha ah right I just quickly read it and taught it was a mis spelling

[DanB]

Well first of all you need to sort the above mentioned i.e pct,ai and prolactin inhib are all essential, hcg is advisable

Your diet needs to be in tune and fairly strict to get max gains from cycle so again head the nutrition forum and let them help you out there

As far as the cycle goes, with what you currently have, I'd personally run Sust at 0.75ml twice per week (500mg wk) week 1-12 and Tren 1ml (400mg wk) weeks 1-10

Nolva and Clomid pct 40/40/20/20 and 100/100/50/50

Start 18 days after last shot of sust

[dumbtoad]

I'll definitely head over there for diet plan. As for the hcg I'm already working on getting it. I had heard that injectable is the best. As for the prami and liquidex, how and when is that taken? I should wait 18 days to start pct?

[DanB]

Injectable is ONLY hcg, the rest is complete b.s. and will do nothing for you

Liquidex start at .25mg ed or .5mg eod, (.25 or .5ml) whatever is your preference

Prami, there is varied opinions on this, some start it at start of cycle, some wait until they need it (gyno, limp dick etc)

Personally I'd wait until I need it but you can use it from start if you wish, either way start at .25mg ED (0.25ml) and increase if necessary

And yes PCT 18 days after last injection due to the long esthers in the blend

[stpete]

OP- How did you run your previous cycles?

[dumbtoad]

Thanks Dan. With the eq/test and deca/test I did 1/2 cc of each twice a week for ten weeks. The tren/sust I did 3/4 cc of each for about 8 weeks.