Do you ever get the feeling that women are in control and run this show.......

[Times Roman]

........and us guys are left standing around wondering what happened?

I've been on this rock for a long time, and even today things happen leaving me scratching my head in confusion.....

(Probably a good time to wash the Harley and hit the road)

[DSM4Life]

No..

[bodybuilder]

No..

Lucky you.

[bodybuilder]

The story of my life bro.

[oatmeal69]

Absolutely. Women call all the shots, and they pick you as "worthy" or not. Then dump you based on the same.

[evander87]

(Probably a good time to wash the Harley and hit the road)

truth

[jasc]

I definitely see this more and more these days. Men in America are becoming bigger n bigger pvssys..

If you let the women have control, be prepared for a life of hell.

[Times Roman]

I definitely see this more and more these days. Men in America are becoming bigger n bigger pvssys..

If you let the women have control, be prepared for a life of hell.

not interested in being around women that need to be "put in their place"

Independence and being able to "take charge" are qualities in a woman I like.

My philosophy is this....

both men and women have control at certain points. Being given control is a function of trust by the other. And to give control is a function of trust in the other. There is nothing more special in a relationship when you can trust your partner and give control without hesitation, knowing that trust is and will be reciprocated back to you in the same condition as when it was originally given.

It takes a certain kind of woman to be able to handle something like this, without the BS and all the petty shit that comes with it.

[Jessgirl]

not interested in being around women that need to be "put in their place"

Independence and being able to "take charge" are qualities in a woman I like.

My philosophy is this....

both men and women have control at certain points. Being given control is a function of trust by the other. And to give control is a function of trust in the other. There is nothing more special in a relationship when you can trust your partner and give control without hesitation, knowing that trust is and will be reciprocated back to you in the same condition as when it was originally given.

It takes a certain kind of woman to be able to handle something like this, without the BS and all the petty shit that comes with it.

WOW!That has hallmark written all over it:-) you could not have said it better,I can promise you this there is no relationship that doesn't have issues !

[slfmade]

WOW!That has hallmark written all over it:-) you could not have said it better,I can promise you this there is no relationship that doesn't have issues !

Mine doesn't! Really!

[Eddie_m63]

I definitely see this more and more these days. Men in America are becoming bigger n bigger pvssys..

If you let the women have control, be prepared for a life of hell.

Amen to that brother.

[BrownGirl]

........and us guys are left standing around wondering what happened?

I've been on this rock for a long time, and even today things happen leaving me scratching my head in confusion.....

(Probably a good time to wash the Harley and hit the road)

I always get crap for saying this....but I'll say it anyway...Don't let them. PERIOD. Tell bitchy women to screw off, just like we would tell an a**hole-ish guy to do the same...You seem like a super nice guy.....It's so sad when nice guys get walked all over.

[Times Roman]

I always get crap for saying this....but I'll say it anyway...Don't let them. PERIOD. Tell bitchy women to screw off, just like we would tell an a**hole-ish guy to do the same...You seem like a super nice guy.....It's so sad when nice guys get walked all over.

I wasn't walked all over. Just real confused about a certain turn of events. and she's not being bitchy, just practical, I suppose....

[BrownGirl]

Awww..see you ARE a nice guy...It's so sweet that you're standing up for her. Sometimes little things happen...don't let it get to ya! You obviously love her so it will be fine!

[bubsy]

[Cronos]

I used tp feel this way BIG TIME in my last relationship, and it can really suck, buddy, I know. My ex was a very stubborn, opinionated, outspoken, ill tempered woman, and these qualities make it very difficult for the man or the woman to have a good relationship. Actuall, in my opinion, those qualities make it impossible. Our relationship ended after 5 years and a baby girl. I don't and would never regret my daughter, but I do regret spending that much time with someone who was 95% take and 5% give so to speak. 8 Months ago I started dating my current gf, and let me tell you, I NEVER thought a woman like this existed. You would swear she fell out of a disney movie, or traveled to the future from the 1950's. This girl's relationship motto that she lives by is in her own words "to serve and take care of her man in every way" I kid you not, straight outta her mouth on multiple occasions, and to this day she lives up to that, and I do mean in every way. Does all the cleaning cooking etc. And this motto of hers even extends into the bedroom. All of this at 21 years old, I'm very lucky and impressed. All I'm saying is there are women out there that will respect you like a man and treat you like a man, and want nothing more that to look after your needs because it makes them FEEL like a woman, but we as men have to always be "men" and take charge. I'm not saying to be rude or disrespectful, just firm and stand your ground. However, we all screw up at this at times, and make the mistake of being to nice, or too giving, or too understanding, but try you best to ALWAYS do and say what you believe and feel, and the woman will follow, not because you're neccessarily right or wrong, that doesn't matter, but because they RESPECT you, because you know what YOU want and you're not afraid to show it or say it. In my opinion every woman yearns for this quality in a man, and my gf has even said out of her own mouth that she loves when I "be the man and take charge". Just my .02

[lovbyts]

I used tp feel this way BIG TIME in my last relationship, and it can really suck, buddy, I know. My ex was a very stubborn, opinionated, outspoken, ill tempered woman, and these qualities make it very difficult for the man or the woman to have a good relationship. Actuall, in my opinion, those qualities make it impossible. Our relationship ended after 5 years and a baby girl. I don't and would never regret my daughter, but I do regret spending that much time with someone who was 95% take and 5% give so to speak. 8 Months ago I started dating my current gf, and let me tell you, I NEVER thought a woman like this existed. You would swear she fell out of a disney movie, or traveled to the future from the 1950's. This girl's relationship motto that she lives by is in her own words "to serve and take care of her man in every way" I kid you not, straight outta her mouth on multiple occasions, and to this day she lives up to that, and I do mean in every way. Does all the cleaning cooking etc. And this motto of hers even extends into the bedroom. All of this at 21 years old, I'm very lucky and impressed. All I'm saying is there are women out there that will respect you like a man and treat you like a man, and want nothing more that to look after your needs because it makes them FEEL like a woman, but we as men have to always be "men" and take charge. I'm not saying to be rude or disrespectful, just firm and stand your ground. However, we all screw up at this at times, and make the mistake of being to nice, or too giving, or too understanding, but try you best to ALWAYS do and say what you believe and feel, and the woman will follow, not because you're neccessarily right or wrong, that doesn't matter, but because they RESPECT you, because you know what YOU want and you're not afraid to show it or say it. In my opinion every woman yearns for this quality in a man, and my gf has even said out of her own mouth that she loves when I "be the man and take charge". Just my .02

Good find, DONT ruin it by getting married. Do you know what food group causes massive weight gain in women, depletes all sex drive and causes irrational thinking?

Wedding Cake.

You would be surprised how fast and how many times as soon as you say I DO everything you just stated changes. No, it didnt happen to me but I have seen it to many times with to many friends.

It's the truth, never try to figure out women. Every time you think you have or the one you are with is different in a split second the whole world turns upside down and you are standing there saying WTF? Even if later you find some way to make sense of it or determine they are right for some reason it still makes NO sense why it happened why it did.

I love how time means nothing to most women in reference to the events especially in regards to an argument/fight. If you try to make sense of it and point out what happened nothing is relevant leading up to an argument until they decide it is. Everything is irrelevant up until they decide you are at fault no matter what they said or did previously. LOL

Smart man to just walk away and finding something else to do. I have a trough time doing this most of the time, I like to make sense (logic) of things but I'm still learning/forcing myself to just bite my tongue and walk away sometimes.

Agree!

But don´t forget, peoples responses are typed. You don´t see their face, or hear voice. So much can be misunderstood.
And this is the "lounge", guys fvck around a lot.
I definitely get misunderstood in some threads because of my dry humor.
90% of the Bro´s in here are not as "tough" as they portray.

Shhhh some of us put a lot of hard work and though into sounding like an a$$hole.
Some of us it just comes naturally.

Happens all the time. It´s somewhere in their nature.
But as long as it is done with wisdom and love, then who cares.
If my woman make more $ than me, I will be a stay-at-home Dad.
If she wants to run the household, and she does it well, I will "sit in my quiet corner".

When I´m 90 on my deathbed, I will not reflect on if I wore the pants in my relationships or not.

On a grander scale, imagine if women were the world and economic leaders instead of men. Estrogen instead of Testosterone. Nurture instead of aggression.

Nurture instead of aggression? You dont know women very well, do you. A woman is 10x more aggressive, emotional, irrational than men. Most all wars are over women or religion and men are more prone to protect. Women are more vengeful and vindictive.
Example: look at most divorces. Men just want out, walk away. Women want to DESTROY they ex in every way possible. Most men end up giving up most everything they ever made and their future where women typically give up nothing but still want to see the ex suffer as much as possible. Why is that?

OK I digress... My rant for the day. LOL

[Razor]

Good find, DONT ruin it by getting married. Do you know what food group causes massive weight gain in women, depletes all sex drive and causes irrational thinking?

Wedding Cake.

You would be surprised how fast and how many times as soon as you say I DO everything you just stated changes. No, it didnt happen to me but I have seen it to many times with to many friends.

It's the truth, never try to figure out women. Every time you think you have or the one you are with is different in a split second the whole world turns upside down and you are standing there saying WTF? Even if later you find some way to make sense of it or determine they are right for some reason it still makes NO sense why it happened why it did.

I love how time means nothing to most women in reference to the events especially in regards to an argument/fight. If you try to make sense of it and point out what happened nothing is relevant leading up to an argument until they decide it is. Everything is irrelevant up until they decide you are at fault no matter what they said or did previously. LOL

Smart man to just walk away and finding something else to do. I have a trough time doing this most of the time, I like to make sense (logic) of things but I'm still learning/forcing myself to just bite my tongue and walk away sometimes.

How long can you string a woman along? They all want to get married.

[lovbyts]

How long can you string a woman along? They all want to get married.

I dont have an answer for that one, if I did I wouldnt have made that mistake x# of times. LOL
See how messed up they are. Guys want the same thing from age 13-99... women want marriage starting at a certain age then the next biological clock starts and they want a kid. Then they start looking for suitor #2 lol

[Knockout_Power]

its a sad truth, but it just comes down to one simple fact... Women can hold out longer than we can =)

[calgarian]

its a sad truth, but it just comes down to one simple fact... Women can hold out longer than we can =)

God gave men 2 brains but only enough blood to fill one........plus gravitational forces work in the favor and you give in...next time when you feel weak trying standing on ur head and that will help.

[SexySweetheart]

God gave men 2 brains but only enough blood to fill one........plus gravitational forces work in the favor and you give in...next time when you feel weak trying standing on ur head and that will help.

BEST advice EVEAH!!!


lol

[Times Roman]

....I think some women can give up too easy on certain things

[oatmeal69]

its a sad truth, but it just comes down to one simple fact... Women can hold out longer than we can =)

Agreed. We are stronger physically, but they can kick our ass with emotional manipulation.

....I think some women can give up too easy on certain things

As soon as things get not so hunky-dory - they ditch you for something "better" - my experience anyway.

[AllAmerican-PCS]

You both play a role and if either of you try to play the others persons role in that relationship, you just asking for disaster. Be a FU*CKING MAN, grab your nuts, be the head of the house hold like we were meant to be. Now in saying that you must realise that behind EVER GREAT MAN (THE HOUSE) IS AN EVEN GREATER WOMAN (THE FOUNDATION). Without either or playing there part there is no strong house or foundation.

[tcw]

Join the Club...(but don't take it too seriously).

Remember, there's another bus coming along in 5 mins!

........and us guys are left standing around wondering what happened?

I've been on this rock for a long time, and even today things happen leaving me scratching my head in confusion.....

(Probably a good time to wash the Harley and hit the road)

[slfmade]

I wear the pants in my home.....just sayin!

[SlimmerMe]

Since it is deep in our DNA to do the pickin' to make sure our genes match yours the best way possible for a healthy child, it translates to the rest of life. We are in charge in many ways. BUT! THERE IS A BUT!

BUT! We do like a take charge man. A man who will provide, protect and profess their love to us. And "once" we pick the right one (notice the word "once") and the man does take charge while making us feel special in the process, MAGIC HAPPENS. And if not? A tortured relationship and the "pickin" starts all over again.

So the bottom line is: females need to make sure they pick the right one. And if so, life is great. Otherwise she will try to change you to become what she wants for you to become. And once it has reached that point everything goes downhill.

[calgarian]

Since it is deep in our DNA to do the pickin' to make sure our genes match yours the best way possible for a healthy child, it translates to the rest of life. We are in charge in many ways. BUT! THERE IS A BUTT!

BUT! We do like a take charge man. A man who will provide, protect and profess their love to us. And "once" we pick the right one (notice the word "once") and the man does take charge while making us feel special in the process, MAGIC HAPPENS. And if not? A tortured relationship and the "pickin" starts all over again.

So the bottom line is: females need to make sure they pick the right one. And if so, life is great. Otherwise she will try to change you to become what she wants for you to become. And once it has reached that point everything goes downhill.

Sorry couldnt resist not trying to be disrespectful slimmer

[Iamdetermined]

Yes and No .. If a male was to come along with an ego I will show him who is boss (me)

[JD250]

Uuuugh!!! It's called the spin cycle, men and women go after each other and round and round we go, who's in charge, he said that, she said this, I'll teach her, I'll show him.......someone has to be the ONE to start over and make an effort to fix the problem in good faith with communication and equal effort from both sides, it's hard, tedious yet rewarding work but won't withstand trying to figure out who the damn boss is or who makes the decisions or who deserves payback for what......communication will rule the day or you'll spend every waking minute of your relationship on the "spin cycle" until someone has enough and bails out.

I don't know what any of this has to do with Times post.......Times, whats up buddy? Sounds like you were surprised by something. I've read enough of your posts to know that you don't need relationship advice but I do know sometimes it helps just to let it out without all the "quick fix" advice......hope the best for you bro, I'm sure you'll handle it just fine.

[awms]

No way!! I have always wore the pants in the relationship and if I dont like somthing then its not happening! The key is to understand a women brain....women think very very very....very! lol different from men! the problem is men think "what would I like" and think with to much logic! what you like is not what she likes!

I could go on and on over this but most men will never get it or be able to grasp it, plus it would take me a year to explain a women's mind lol

[awms]

p.s the women who act all tough and "strong" are usually putting on a front....the whole "If a man gives me problems il put him in his place" is ridiculous and most guys fall for it! the women who say "you could never figure me out" are the easiest to figure out if you know how.

[JD250]

I'd like to hear the story according to your woman^^^ LOL

[slfmade]

I'd like to hear the story according to your woman^^^ LOL

For the most part I agree with what he said and my woman and I have the best relationship of anybody I know....and you can ask her....she's a member here!

[JD250]

For the most part I agree with what he said and my woman and I have the best relationship of anybody I know....and you can ask her....she's a member here!

I was just jerking his chain, everyone is different and in a different place in life, I actually make most of the decisions in my house but it has nothing to do with me "putting my foot down"although I sometimes do, it's about compatability, trust, respect and helping the relationship with the skills and abilities that I bring to the table, understanding, caring and compromise are all part of a LONG TERM relationship and I can say these things with a great deal of certainty after 26 years of marriage, there were some damn tough years but we've managed to pull it together through practicing some of the things I've mentioned here.

[Razor]

Great but Sad story to tell
My brother has been with his gf on and off for 8 years I believe junior year college
They have cheated on each other, broken up and gotten back together more than Ronnie and Sammy (JS)
They bought a condo together..mind you they are not married, they break up and he says I am coming
To california, so we get a place together...Today he tells me she is flying out for Valentines Day and drops
an even bigger bomb on me saying she might be moving out here...He knows this girl wants his freedom
Cause the first time in his life he has been 100% free to do what he wants. Now she's coming for his freedom
Few certain facts, she is going to get fat in 5 years, she does not like sucking dick and will not wash/fold/iron
his clothes, a few requirements of being a gf if your man is doing all the proper things he should be doing
She is a pre school teacher, he is a Senior Auditor for KPMG and now for Cohen a national accounting firm
Somehow she thinks that she is above him in status and job skills wise..
This girl is clearly not the gf or wife for him and I have beat my head against the wall spelling out every
detail about what is wrong with their relationship and he agrees with it all.
I will never understand the power ***** has over a man..

[joebailey1271]

Razr, why even bother with telling him.

[slfmade]

Razr, why even bother with telling him.

Cause it's his brother....der! LOL

[Razor]

Razr, why even bother with telling him.

Because he is my brother and I am determined to overcome the ***** and see to it
That he meets the right girl that treats him right....she is desperate and he would
Be settling if he stays with her...every time he tries to break up with her. She starts
The crying and waling on and on. And somehow she has convincedhim that they are supposed
To be together even though he left Texas to get away from her.
My plan is for him to meet someone else out here...the easiest way to get over one girl
Is to get under another. And i don't want to see him married, with kids when that's not what
He wants..especially not with her..it would be one thing if this girl was like gixxers wife..
But she's not..there is nothing special about her. And the fact that she does not treat him right
I won't stand for it