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    do different compounds transform your body in a different way?

    do different compounds transform your body in a different way?

    lets say your goal was to gain mass,

    and you had different cycle to choose from.

    overall would the final outcome be the same. lets say with either cycle you would put on mass, but would the mechanise or what areas of the body the mass is put on be different depending on what compound u are using?

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    You can gain mass or cut with almost any combination of aas since diet is the key.

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    I agree. I have been as lean and vascular on abombs as Anavar. Results are more dependent on diet then gear by far.

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    Very good question and the short answers are above, but more specifically:

    Firstly, steroids don’t transform your body. You do so via your dietary and training regimens.

    Anabolic steroids are medications, and although in the same class...muscle promoting (generically speaking), they do have specific emphases. Thus, although not ideally suited for cutting, you can cut on Test E and Dbol. However, the propionate ester's innate properties (SEE: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...icle-on-Esters) better equip Test Prop for this task, making it and the leaner muscle generating/proven fat-burning/vascularity enhancing Var better cutting choices, and vice versa for bulking.

    This is precisely why we have a Profiles Forum (http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...PROFILES-FORUM), so that you can research gear to more closely align your goals with those compounds which inherently promote them.

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    Honestly, there is no medical scientific evidence that any testosterone differs in any way based upon ester. None. In your body the carbon atoms are cleaved off the testosterone molecule and that regulates the speed at which the base compound enters your blood stream. You body doesn't have any clue whether the testosterone it is receiving is from regular prop injections or bi weekly enth or cyp injections.

    Now I am not saying certain compounds don't lend themselves to cutting better then others. But the ester between compounds doesn't alter the parent compound in anyway and your body can not tell the difference. Bro science has been spewing this nonsense for way to long.

    Not trying to be a dick, I respect your opinion and the effort you've put into answering his question because it's obvious you are trying to help him. But I disagree with the notion that the speed in which the compound is delivered will affect its effects. If the same dose per frame of time is maintained results should be identical. My HRT doctor and I had this very conversation and he agrees with this. And he isn't some quack that doesn't understand the science behind this medicine. He is a licensed doctor and one of doctors recommended by Dr. Crisler in my part of the country. If you don't know who Crisler is check into him. He pretty much pioneered HRT medicine as it stands today. One of the most respected and knowledgable people on the subject in the nation, if not world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swm1972 View Post
    Honestly, there is no medical scientific evidence that any testosterone differs in any way based upon ester.
    Unfortunately, medical science ‘tries’ (and I use the term loosely) not to waste scientific funding on things it does not need, and wouldn't have use of such evidence because it doesn’t use Test for aesthetic purposes like we do.

    Here’s a thought:

    Why don't you empirically research this for yourself, by both trying the esters in question (SCIENTIFIC- case study evidence), and then cross-referencing it with those who do possess such evidence, via a steroid.com users poll (SCIENTIFIC - self-reporting/survey evidence)?

    That’ll provide all the science you need!
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    thanks for the information seems to be some conflicting answers, if there are different classification for each steroid,

    can steroid which would be considered cutting agents be able to used for bulking would they be affective? and vie versca

    would the cutting type of steroid effect the muscle fibres different as to a bulking type of steroid? would the quailty of muscle be different? would you grow in a different way regardless of diet and training regime?

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    Each steroid has a different rating and how well it binds to ar. (adrogen receptors) As said above you can cut on any steroid due to your diet and training program. However, many choose to cut on steroids like winny or var that do not aromatize. And you will have almost no bloating. Unlike dbol or anadrol where bloating (water weight) is common.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32

    Unfortunately, medical science 'tries' (and I use the term loosely) not to waste scientific funding on things it does not need, and wouldn't have use of such evidence because it doesn't use Test for aesthetic purposes like we do.

    Here's a thought:

    Why don't you empirically research this for yourself, by both trying the esters in question (SCIENTIFIC- case study evidence), and then cross-referencing it with those who do possess such evidence, via a steroid.com users poll (SCIENTIFIC - self-reporting/survey evidence)?

    That'll provide all the science you need!
    I've ran both short and long esters of multiple compounds numerous times and stand by my comments. Perhaps you can explain how cleaved carbon atoms can alter the parent compound in your body. It made no difference in mine.

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    I believe your natural genetics play a role too. Although, diet is def #1 key but I have always been lean and vascular even on a test eth and deca cycle I was still lean and vascular. I would have to eat like crap to gain alot of size. (WHICH IS SOMETHING I WOULD NEVER DO) just stating that natural genetics play a role in your development. If your genes are not the best than you probably have to work harder to get your desired goal. Luckily I am happy with being lean and cut and dont want to be too big. Not sure if any of my rambling made sense or even helped you but those are my 2 cents... HAHAHA

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    I have done every ester of test and theres no difference at all in the way they work or make you retain water....side effects are dose related. The only difference is how fast the get in your system and how fast they leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magic32 View Post
    Very good question and the short answers are above, but more specifically:

    Firstly, steroids don’t transform your body. You do so via your dietary and training regimens.

    Anabolic steroids are medications, and although in the same class...muscle promoting (generically speaking), they do have specific emphases. Thus, although not ideally suited for cutting, you can cut on Test E and Dbol. However, the propionate ester's innate properties (SEE: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...icle-on-Esters) better equip Test Prop for this task, making it and the leaner muscle generating/proven fat-burning/vascularity enhancing Var better cutting choices, and vice versa for bulking.

    This is precisely why we have a Profiles Forum (http://forums.steroid.com/forumdispl...PROFILES-FORUM), so that you can research gear to more closely align your goals with those compounds which inherently promote them.

    Best to you.
    When i quoted a profile from steroid.com steroid profiles i was promply told by a forum monitor that the profiles are out of date and not acurate...

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