2nd cycle & acne

[Rc7]

hi all.

been reading on here for couple of years but thought i'd finally join and start asking a few questions.

my first cycle was the end of last year, 2ml test e and 2ml deca per week for 10 weeks. pct was hcg and nolva. fininhed my pct towards the end of jan.

about 7/8 weeks into the cycle i started to get acne on my back and upper arms. this annoyed me alot as the whole idea is to get a body your proud of not one you want to hide due to spots!!

i still have the acne on my back nearly 5 weeks after finishing.

i thought it might dissappear of its own accord as my hormones balanced out during and after pct but am gonna order some vit b5 to see if that will help.

basically i was hoping to do another cycle end may/start june, maybe test e on its own to see how i get on for 12 weeks. altho i'm paranoid that the acne will come back (if it ever fookin leaves!!!)

does this mean that i'm prone to acne on cycle or was it just because it was my first cycle?
would adding a small dosage of ai during cycle help?
would using hcg along with the test help?
or are there any other compounds i'd be better taking?

my stats are, 34yrs old, 6 foot 4, 97.5 kg or 214lbs approx 15% bf. will be looking to add lean muscle with as little fat as possible!!

many thanks guys!

[BBrian]

The acne is a result of estrogen levels being too high. You should always use an AI during a cycle and up until the point when your PCT SERMs kick in to prevent estrogen rebound that occurs once you cease taking your AI. Without controlling estrogen, you will almost always get acne. I'm not hip as to how Vitamin B5 will help with acne, but I know that there are half a dozen antibiotics that are prescribed for acne. Dermatologists prescribe them frequently, as well as Accutane, though I personally stay away from Accutane due to its nasty side affects.

[DanB]

Accutane works wonders at 10mg day to prevent acne on cycle and only sides from dose that low are dry skin and chapped lips

The antibotics arent worth the paper the perscription is writen on, Ive tried them all

[DanB]

Also estrogen isnt only cause, the test makes the sebaceous glands produce more oil hence the acne

I agree it can cause it aswell but I use an a.i. and without accutane I would be destroyed with acne

Diet is also big factor, high fat foods, processed foods, simple carbs and dairy products can also be big factors

Especially milk, you have it all there high fat, simple carbs and dairy, off cycle for me and no milk = no spots

[jasc]

Dan I take it you've used Accutane? Did you notice less acne on subsequent cycles? or does it mainly help only while taking it?

[DanB]

no same acne every cycle, dose and compound dependent of course

but you need to run high dose for long term to stop the glands producing oil , like a kid in puberty would run it 6month 60mg day and thats alll well and good for him no more acne until possibly mid 20's and then a low dose will fix it but when you inject 500mg + of test a week then all bets are off and the glands begin to produce again no matter what you have done previously

I find 10mg or 20mg at very most is fine to prevent acne on cycle, clean diet off cycle

And yes I was on high dose as a teenager because of puberty and it was fine until steroids came into the equation, now if I even look at a vial of test I need accutane, never mind dbol I cant run it because 20mg accutane only barely keeps the acne at bay

[jasc]

Thx for clearin that up bro. I was considering using it after I saw a few articles/posts on it preventing future breakouts for good, but I guess that doesn't apply when injecting test..

That's too bad... a permanent fix woulda been nice

[Rc7]

thanks for the replies fellas.

so it kinda seems that i'm just gonna be prone to acne while on cycle then? i thought that accutane had alot of sides, chapped lips, nose bleeds etc. is it prescription only?

i was hoping it was just an eostrogen related thing, where if i controlled it better i'd be ok. goin on hols in july and want a bit more size but if i had bad acne i'd be gutted!!!

[JonnyConcrete]

Are some steroids more prone to giving acne than others? I'm sure I've read somewhere that Deca is one of the more prone-to-acne steroids

Not sure if its just broscience though?

[Rc7]

Are some steroids more prone to giving acne than others? I'm sure I've read somewhere that Deca is one of the more prone-to-acne steroids

Not sure if its just broscience though?

if thats true then a test e only cycle should be better for me.

[DanB]

Yes everybody is different but there is nothing concrete that says deca will give it, that part is bro science

for me personally, test,dbol and drol are my main problems

cant say deca caused any more problems than test would on its own

everybody is different, alot of people get no acne at all

[Rc7]

so it seems your either prone to acne or your not and it doesn't matter what compound you take?

[DanB]

Yeah u prone or your not, and some compounds effect people differently but there is nothing set in stone to say that x will give worse acne then y, its dependent on the person and their genetics

[Rc7]

if i'm prone then what can i do to limit it? accutane only? what about the vitamin b5? is it just a myth that hgh will keep it low?