Question about if my Test is Real or just taking ages.

[0tolerance]

Hey,

So this is my 2nd cycle
Taking Test Enanthenate
Pinning Wednesday and sunday
Cycling for 10 weeks 750mg a week.

My current stats are 6ft 220lbs about 15% bf
Been going to gym for many years

My question is, since i started my cycle i was 220 and ive maybe gone up and down by 2lbs, but its coming up to the 4th week tomorrow and have noticed zero increase in sex drive, no or little atrophy of my balls and no particular change in weight...
Except my house mate used from the same vial 250mg a week and gained 7kg over the 10 weeks he was on.

just a little confused as to what may be going on

My diet is as followed
(i dont have all the macros)

breakfast
5 whole eggs, 4 bits of toast

snack 1
protein shake(50g carbs 25g protein) some almonds and a apple

lunch:
1 cup of brown rice, 180g of tuna in oil

pre work out:
1 cup of oats, yoghurt, LSA mix, 2/3 scoop of protein and blue berries

post wo
protein shake again.

Dinner
300g of steak 250g of sweet potatoes

before bed
250g of cottage cheese.

Am i just being impatient? as i know its not at its maximum till the 5th week, but i would have thought on 750mg/week i would have notice some sides at all...
The other thing i have really noticed was more oily skin, but im on melanotan so thats a side effect of that.

[lovbyts]

4 weeks is about when most people notice it starting to kick in. The first time may have been due to your diet change more than the aas the first few weeks.

[0tolerance]

Thanks for the quick reply, i'll be patient and stick it out.

[felk87]

Im currently just starting to feel mine at week 6.... some of use feel it later is alright be patient and think positive.

[Honkey_Kong]

You guys remember the OP?

He did this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.Tzo1M8rohkU

[lovbyts]

Oh yeah I remember that. One of those post that makes you shake your head...

So OP, did you get a new GF or???

[Dr Pepper]

Because of the long ester and time it takes to start seeing gains you might want to consider running it 12 weeks instead of 10.

[0tolerance]

You guys remember the OP?

He did this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.Tzo1M8rohkU

hahahaha i read that thread before i posted that and i thought you two might remember me.
was waiting to get trolled.

Sooo i guess i will explain that story here.
No defence on my question now that ive got her out of my life its a seriously stupid question.. but love makes you do funny things.
Annnnyyy way, so i told her i was thinking of doing it to curb my hornyness and she thought i was an absolute idiot, then we had a big argument because me saying that to her made her feel like a huge bitch but still didnt change anything at all.

So one day i said to her look seriously do you think you are the only girl on this planet with a vagina.. because i have other girls that want to **** me and im really finding it hard to find a reason to not go **** them... as i learned the hard way.... it really was a dumb thing to say to your girlfriend.

but i dont know what it is about her, shes like heroin to me.. cant give her up, even though we've nearly been apart for a year seeing her ****s me around, makes me start missing her, which drives me insane.

and i'll drop my ego and admit that she broke up with me in the end, because shed crushed me into this small weak little person.
But you know what, im actually really glad it happened because now her friends that hated me, hate her new boyfriend even more.. ive had alot of fun with my year, took 3 international holidays, a season of snow boarding, thailand, new zealand.

I can safely say that i will NEVER let a girl do that to me ever again, just a lesson i had to learn the hard way i guess.
sorry for being such a tool.

[moseley2004]

You guys remember the OP?

He did this thread

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread....#.Tzo1M8rohkU

That was the best 20 min of my life lmaoooo

[Honkey_Kong]

I thought you were trolling the forum when you posted that thread.

But yeah, bitches get us to do some really stupid things, but never say never. Every single one of us has done some retarded shit for a broad and we all probably will again.

[stpete]

I agree w/running it for 12 weeks. I would tweak that diet a little bit too. No mention of PCT...Do you have one lined up.

[0tolerance]

PCT i have lined up is Nolvadex and i have some clen aswell to stop losing too much muscle.
week
1 40mg/day
2 20
3 20
4 20

How would you reccomend tweaking my diet? as i had it written by a bodybuilder at my gym.
usually i write my own, but i figured id change things up and try some one elses.


Thank for the suggestions everyone.

And so true Honkey_Kong, i guess i just have to try avoid women like her again.

[MickeyKnox]

you need to eat more. that's not very much for 220lb guy on gear. at the minimum add an extra meal in there (30 mins after your pwo shake)

what's clen have to do with losing muscle? did i miss something?

pct = aromisin (stane) 12.5eod and add clomid in there too 100/50/50/25

can you get your hands on hcg. good idea to include that too. 250iux2/wk. keep your "boys" in good shape and helps with pct as well.

and finally yes, i remember reading about you. you wanted to kill your libido??? glad you have that straightened out.

[JAB1]

I would up your cals as posted above. I am lighter than you and eat way more. All clean. I am about 4 weeks into test e 500mg/wk and up 12 pounds. Strenght seems to be increasing. I cut before and I am now on bulking diet tho so I think alot of it is the food at this point. I dont "feel " anything so to speak. maybe a little horny but think that may be in my head. This is my first cycle so Ive felt like an animal since day one just becasue im excited to be doing it. Havent noticed atrophy yet or anyting, but I didnt pay much attention to my balls before so who knows, lol. Id say up your food intake and be patient for a couple weeks.

[0tolerance]

Clen can help with muscle catabolism when getting off or so ive read some where and i just by chance have some so figured id throw it in there.
I read a few articles on just doing a Nolva only post cycle being effective, but i will admit its been a while since i read them so i best brush up on my knowledge again..
only problem with getting aromasin its super expensive from my source.

[Honkey_Kong]

Clen can help with muscle catabolism when getting off or so ive read some where and i just by chance have some so figured id throw it in there.
I read a few articles on just doing a Nolva only post cycle being effective, but i will admit its been a while since i read them so i best brush up on my knowledge again..
only problem with getting aromasin its super expensive from my source.

The sponsor ar-r at the top of the page sells aromasin look under the AI's it's listed as Stane. You should also run it on cycle too.

[0tolerance]

So im pretty sure the stuff i got was either super under dosed or fake.
its about the 7th week in, no sex drive increase, no atrophy of my man grapes, while there has been a minor gain in body weight of 2kg id attribute that to my diet.
I have no side effects at all, not even oilier skin, no increase in appetite, no increased perspiration.

is it safe to say that the stuff was fake?
I'm getting some more stuff to start a new cycle and im certain its legit this time, but im just wondering to be safe to i call it quits and start the new cycle in 3 months or do i just cycle on for another 3 months and then do a full pct?

the new stuff im getting is a prop Enth blend, 100mg prop 150mg enth, the guy also recommended some dbol but said it was my choice.
I happen to have tren A aswell, but im not sure if i want to use it as one of my very knowledgable friends who uses it said to me if im not careful i can **** myself up pretty bad and ive read all the profiles on it... good thing summer is over here.

[DanB]

Yeah I would call that fake bro, but personally before I jump into a new cycle I would get bloodwork done to be positive everything is in check,if it is then start a cycle at your leisure

And your right about the dbol, leave it until future cycles and see how test effects you first and that way if you get sides you know what is causing them

[DanB]

My bad you were talking about tren not dbol


Noooooo way bro trust me you don't want to touch tren until your experienced using test and even then there is no gurantees that you will handle the sides and yes you will get sides from it,you will feel shitty have no cardiovascular ability, possibly ed issues, gyno, insomnia, tren is not something to be taken lightly

Just stick to test this time,you will make good gains if its actually legit this time

[0tolerance]

Cheers for the quick reply Dan, im going to head in this week to get some blood work done.
Although im very sure it is fake now, as i remember how i felt in summer when i did my first cycle, my body temperature was up and i had to take cold showers a few times a day to feel comfortable and 10 minutes of cardio would have me sweating like i did an hour.

once again thanks