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    First cycle advice and questions :)

    Hi all,

    I'm finally almost ready to do my "first" cycle (I tried a cycle before but it was fake or ineffective gear).

    My stats/history:
    5'6"
    165 lb, roughly 12% bf
    3.5 years lifting, never athletic before
    Lift 4x or 5x/wk with body part split
    Overall Goal: need to get both bigger and leaner
    Current Goal: cutting bf in anticipation of cycle
    Current supps: Multi, Fish Oil, BCAA, Whey Protein
    Lifts: 185x5 bench, 295x5 squat

    Cycle:
    Dbol 40mg ED for first 25 days
    Test Cyp 500mg/wk for 10 weeks, 2 pins/wk

    PCT:
    Nolvadex
    Clomid
    HcG
    Arimidex

    Questions:

    Aside from the regular critique of what I posted above, my biggest question is in regard to diet.

    I have been disciplined with my diet in the past (and currently, have lost 15 lbs on the last two months). However, I have had trouble finding a guide as to how much someone of my size should eat while on cycle. I know it can't possibly be 5000+ caps like all the 6'0" guys I see posting cycles. I'm eating at a deficit now to lose bf before my cycle, but I can definitely eat a ton, and I know to keep it to lean proteins and good carbs while on cycle. Just need to know how much to strive for.

    Another question: I am pretty short and, while I want to grow, I don't want to look grotesque. I'm aiming for a fitness model type of body, although I'm neither big or lean enough yet. However, I do want to have a general lean mass goal so I don't go overboard. Any suggestions?

    Finally, if anyone would be willing to do a critique of my build so I know what parts to focus on while cycling to get them caught up, I'd really appreciate that too! Body pic attached. My legs are huge and always have been, so I'm not worried about them, just want an upper body critique. Note that this pic is a bit old, I'm about 10 pounds less now, but it was seemingly almost all fat lost.

    Thanks for any and all feedback, guys!
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    Run the HCG during your cycle 250iu twice a week. Don't run the HCG for PCT. Dbol will retain a ton of water and you won't have a lean cut body. You'll look like a Pillsbury doughboy. For your first cycle I'd cut out the dbol and stick with the Test. Test Cyp is a long ester, you need to run it at least 14 to 16 weeks. My recommendation would be for you to run Test E (pin 2x week for 12 weeks) or Test Prop (pin EOD for 8 weeks). I tend to get acne with long esters. You might be different. Diet is a huge part of getting cut. If you want a fitness model like body you need to do a lot of cardio and cut fat as much as possible. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScotchGuard02 View Post
    Run the HCG during your cycle 250iu twice a week. Don't run the HCG for PCT. Dbol will retain a ton of water and you won't have a lean cut body. You'll look like a Pillsbury doughboy. For your first cycle I'd cut out the dbol and stick with the Test. Test Cyp is a long ester, you need to run it at least 14 to 16 weeks. My recommendation would be for you to run Test E (pin 2x week for 12 weeks) or Test Prop (pin EOD for 8 weeks). I tend to get acne with long esters. You might be different. Diet is a huge part of getting cut. If you want a fitness model like body you need to do a lot of cardio and cut fat as much as possible. Good luck.
    Thanks so much for the feedback! What I'd really like to know though is how many calories someone of my height/weight should aim for on cycle, and what parts of my body I should focus on while on cycle (I.e. what parts need improvement).

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    arcanyx post your diet in the nutrition section and the guys will help you there with your intake

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    Also, make sure that you use the AI during cycle, not for PCT. The Nolvadex will take care of estrogen during PCT, you want to use the Arimidex on-cycle to control it during that time. For this cycle I'd recommend 0.5mg every other day while taking Dbol, then lowering it to 0.25mg every other day for the remainder and continue to take it until you begin taking Nolvadex, otherwise your estrogen will rebound and you'll find your shoulders and back exploding with acne. But like ScotchGuard pointed out, if you haven't already obtained the Cypionate, I'd really suggest that you get Enanthate instead.

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