Help on enanthate 250

[Aaron_369]

Started my first cycle monday, 1cc enanthate 250 after injection left a large knot under the skin and is sore as hell to touch! Any thoughts on what could have cosed this.

[leather daddy]

was the needle clean. did u wipe the alchol swab over both the top of the vial and the injection site. 2 different ones of course lol. Were ur hands properly washed?
What size needle are u using?

[Aaron_369]

Needle was clean, hands were washed and alcohol swab was used before and after as well as top of bottle. Needle was 20 x 1 1/2

[jpowell]

yea, my very first pin in the felt, virgin muscle, hurt. but not a pain hurt, like a sore muscle. tight like i held a flexed muscle all day. when i did the other side, went a lil bit lower, but had no pain whatsoever. 3rd pin, no pain no swole. 2maro will b my forth pin. put u have to follow a clean protocol. after all ur sticking that into ur body lol.

[leather daddy]

jesus a 20 gauge to inject? Thats a big needle man

[Aaron_369]

Yeah, there was no pain or knot after injection. It came about six hours later. I've ordered more a little smaller they were the only ones I had access to from a pharmacy.

[Aaron_369]

Is it normal for that to happen after first injection or is it something to worry about so much as an infection forming.

[leather daddy]

Could be normal, most likely is due to the virgin muscle, But could also be sore cos u shot urself with a harpoon needle haha, jesus man get some 23-25g

[Aaron_369]

Haha. I ordered 25g. Thanks for you help though man

[jpowell]

yea i didn't realize u used a harpoon needle. use those large to pull out, and get some 22-23g 1in long boys for pins. can't go wrong, don't even feel em go in.

[Aaron_369]

Didn't feel the twenty go in. The needle size is not what bothered me. Just the egg sized knot that came a few hours later on rite glute.

[jpowell]

it cod b from the needle penetrating the muscle, not the skin is the point i was getting at. as u pushed the pin, and the plunger it had to create so to say an area to absorb the oil. where as the littler needles, don't force so much, it absorbs quicker. make sense? the egg sized knot (exaggeration i hope) cod be your oil still trynna be absorb. did u massage? hold at 90 degree angle, push slowly. pull out slow, make the quardants on ur ass?

[Aaron_369]

Can't say i'm really exaggerating. It's about the size of an egg. Didn't everything as i was supposed to.

[jpowell]

is it solid? or like a bubble.

[Aaron_369]

It's not completely solid there is a little of a bubble feel to it

[jpowell]

man bro, im not sure? give it a day or 2 and report back please. can u sit?

[Aaron_369]

I can sit and everything. There is no redness or warmth. It just feels like i got hit with a hammer. I might have injected to fast which created the knot.

[Aaron_369]

It's been a few days now. The knot has not gone down in size. It's completely solid. The pain has gotten a lot worse as well. She I go to doctor now?

[jpowell]

yea. go to the er sounds like sumthng bad. r u sure its from thd injection?

[Aaron_369]

Yeah. I'm positive it it. This first pin I did my buddy said they were inch and a half needles did not paying any attention to it. The second pin I did i went and bought my own needles they were diff inch and a half I felt it go into muscle this time. Left no knot and just a little pain nothing bad at all. The first pin I dont think needle was long enough to hit the muscle.

[Aaron_369]

I can even feel it when I walk. It's hard as bone.

[Aaron_369]

and what do I tell them at the ER? Could i get in trouble for the truth

[jpowell]

idk??thas y id b scared to go. but its the safest thing to do.

[Aaron_369]

That's the only thing keeping me from going.

[Honkey_Kong]

Jesus Christ, Aaron. Weren't you advised to stop? Do you have a thermometer? Take your temperature. If you have a fever, go to the ER.

[Aaron_369]

I did stop. This was the post I made before the one you saw. Hints the date. I also got a hold of a pct i'm going to take for a few days.