Suitable for a first? Help!

[PropAndTren]

Stats
6'1
190
10%
23 yo (24 in 4 months)


Test E: 500mg, 12 weeks
Test P: 100mg EOD, 6 weeks

Arimidex: 0.5mg EOD, 14 weeks
HCG: 2x 500iu, weeks 9-14

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20


Is my HCG protocol good?
I have 12 amps at 250mg/ml can I up the dose to 750mg? So as not too waste it.

[PropAndTren]

I know you get alot of these threads but I just need a run through with some more experienced guys, so i know im not messing myself up.

[PropAndTren]

Bump

[dtob]

Stats
6'1
190
10%
23 yo (24 in 4 months)

Test E: 500mg, 12 weeks
Test P: 100mg EOD, 6 weeks
Dont need

Arimidex: 0.5mg EOD, 14 week
.25mg eod AS required
HCG: 2x 500iu, weeks 9-14
start with 250iu 2x and adjust as needed

Clomid: 100/100/50/50
Nolva: 40/40/20/20

Is my HCG protocol good?
I have 12 amps at 250mg/ml can I up the dose to 750mg? So as not too waste it.

Few minor adjustments
Sure you dont want to wait a year

[PropAndTren]

Few minor adjustments
Sure you dont want to wait a year

Thanks man, so i'll lower the AI and then bring it up to 0.5mg if I have to.

Why leave out the prop? I thought it was good to kickstart, I just thought I could get a solid 12 weeks of making gains rather than wait till week 4/5/6

[dtob]

Thanks man, so i'll lower the AI and then bring it up to 0.5mg if I have to.

Why leave out the prop? I thought it was good to kickstart, I just thought I could get a solid 12 weeks of making gains rather than wait till week 4/5/6

Leave out the prop because its your first cycle and test e only is a good way to get a baseline for or feeling for testosterone
Get used to that then change it up add other compounds one at a time so you can accurately see how your body reacts to diferent stuff

[PropAndTren]

Leave out the prop because its your first cycle and test e only is a good way to get a baseline for or feeling for testosterone
Get used to that then change it up add other compounds one at a time so you can accurately see how your body reacts to diferent stuff

I dont really understand, All im using is test just different esters, no different compounds.

I would still see how my body reacts to test its just the Test E kick in time could be masked by the prop

[dtob]

You will be pinning yourself 3-4 times/week with prop
Seems like a lot of pokes to start out with
Prop has more pip than test-e also
Its up to you though

[PropAndTren]

You will be pinning yourself 3-4 times/week with prop
Seems like a lot of pokes to start out with
Prop has more pip than test-e also
Its up to you though

Been on B12 shots before and needles have never bothered me. So EOD injects are fine

Do you think it would be good to add 35mg dbol first 4 weeks?

[dtob]

Been on B12 shots before and needles have never bothered me. So EOD injects are fine

Do you think it would be good to add 35mg dbol first 4 weeks?

Im not a fan of dbol because it shuts you balls down then bloats you and you get acne
Then you stop dbol none of the gains stay
Just stick with a simple teste first cycle
and try diferent stuff next cycle
You will grow lots on 500mg/week teste

[PropAndTren]

Ok man I'll run it the way I laid it out but lower the ai and the hcg

[DeadlyD]

I'm 5 weeks into my 12 week test E cycle, (first cycle) I had a vial of prop aswel, so I decided to use it from week 2-4 it worked great felt like it launched the E into action, I've been making gains from week 2! Also I plan on using prop after my E runs out so I'm not waiting 2 weeks to start pct!

[PropAndTren]

I'm 5 weeks into my 12 week test E cycle, (first cycle) I had a vial of prop aswel, so I decided to use it from week 2-4 it worked great felt like it launched the E into action, I've been making gains from week 2! Also I plan on using prop after my E runs out so I'm not waiting 2 weeks to start pct!

Is this your first cycle too? I was thinking about using prop to bridge to pct aswell.

What dose prop/E are you using?

[DeadlyD]

Is this your first cycle too? I was thinking about using prop to bridge to pct aswell.

What dose prop/E are you using?

Yes first cycle, 100 mg eod

[PropAndTren]

Thoughts on upping dose to 750mg?

I'll have 12 amps leftover that expire in 2013, so it would go to waste if I dont use it.

[gonzo6183]

Definitly dont up the dose, completely not needed for a first cycle. Do you also realise that if you used the prop as mention you would actually be running 850mg for your first 6 weeks? thats double what you need. The dbol wouldnt hurt for the first 4 weeks if you want that kickstart. All that said you should be waiting a year or 2 but I dont think thats going to hasppen is it?

[PropAndTren]

Definitly dont up the dose, completely not needed for a first cycle. Do you also realise that if you used the prop as mention you would actually be running 850mg for your first 6 weeks? thats double what you need. The dbol wouldnt hurt for the first 4 weeks if you want that kickstart. All that said you should be waiting a year or 2 but I dont think thats going to hasppen is it?

I realise that but I just want to make the most of the 12 weeks, dont want to use dbol as I have a family history of liver cancer. So it'll need to be prop.

Ive been waiting since 19, I'll be 24 by the time I start this though

[PropAndTren]

So im g2g just lower the AI dose and the HCG dose?